OK...this may be a REALLY stupid question...

[MOTO13]

I bought a set of carbon Renthal Fatbars Lite. I didn't notice, and it wasn't very well shown in the ad, but they are 740mm width. I run 760's on my bikes. I can send them back no problem, buy the 800's and cut them to 760. Question is...would it be crazy to just cheat the length to 760mm by not put my grips on all the way? Essentially extending the bar width 20 mm overall or 10mm per grip. Anyone ever do this before??

 

[Rickster]

Yep it sucks , return them you won’t be disappointed.

 

[Gyre]

Yep it sucks , return them you won’t be disappointed.

For sure. Grips aren't made to endure that kind of shearing stress by themselves.

 

[MOTO13]

That would be insane if you ride hard. Also it’s insane to buy used carbon bars.

Who bought used carbon bars?

Anyway, I am just going to return them and get a set of 800's like I usually do and trim them. Just trying to avoid the hassles of sending them back. Thanks for the replies.

 

[#lazy]

Be fine , just blob in 10mm of filler and you’re good to rip
Edit in both grips

 

[MOTO13]

No, the bars were advertised as 40mm rise and then in the description it said xcb7llk40 or some shit. I never would have guessed they were 740's or I wouldn't have bought them. I assumed they were regular 800's trimmable. I really don't think 10mm hang out is much, but I may as well just have the right bars and be done with it. I just hate returning things.

 

[Mikerb]

get 800s and cut them down..............and even 760 is pretty narrow for a modern EMTB.

 

[MOTO13]

I'm 5-10' and 760 width for me is about right. Plenty stable at speed and yet it gets in between trees. I rode 800's once...too wide for my taste and they suck ass in single track. Even 780 is pushing it. Do a lot of ST woods. 760 gets me through the tight stuff way quicker and fits the trail.

 

[irie]

I'm 5-10' and 760 width for me is about right. Plenty stable at speed and yet it gets in between trees. I rode 800's once...too wide for my taste and they suck ass in single track. Even 780 is pushing it. Do a lot of ST woods. 760 gets me through the tight stuff way quicker and fits the trail.

Agree with you. There's this widely held MTB rider belief that somehow the wider the bar is the more manly it is, and vice versa. So most don't experiment with different bar widths, they just accept the delivered cockpit. Basically one size fits all, apart from seat height adjustability of course.

 

[Mikerb]

Yes I find 800 too wide and I also regularly ride "slalom" through the trees but a lot depends on the head angle and trail on your bike(s). I use 780 on my enduro bike and 770 on my trail/all mountain bike..............the latter usually the one used for "tree slalom". It may seem small amounts but just a few mm does make a difference.

 

[MOTO13]

You're right. A few mm makes the difference between hitting a tree or not when you literally have to go between trees that are a lot of times way less than 3' apart. More than one time I've hit my grip while trying to rip through the woods between trees. I've learned to keep my pinky finger off the ends of the grips as much as possible that's for sure.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I've found these to be great when running fast trails which are tight, instead of hooking up - so far I've always glanced off.

LoamLab Components – Counterpunch

The LoamLab Counterpunch makes clipping trees less problematic by protecting the 5th digit and metacarpal from impact, greatly reducing the chance of a broken bone.

www.loamlab.bike

You can make them work with the granite stash tools too if you use them.

Loamlab Counterpunch Grips with Granite Stash Tools ?

With the Counterpunch grips I thought I wouldn't be able to use the Granite Stash tools anymore. The Counterpunch grips clamp to the inside of the bar ends to stay solidly in place and the Granite Stash do the same, with an expanding rubber collar. On mine, I had the Race face closed end...

www.emtbforums.com

 

[Doomanic]

I've found these to be great when running fast trails which are tight, instead of hooking up - so far I've always glanced off.

LoamLab Components – Counterpunch

The LoamLab Counterpunch makes clipping trees less problematic by protecting the 5th digit and metacarpal from impact, greatly reducing the chance of a broken bone.

www.loamlab.bike

You can make them work with the granite stash tools too if you use them.

Loamlab Counterpunch Grips with Granite Stash Tools ?

With the Counterpunch grips I thought I wouldn't be able to use the Granite Stash tools anymore. The Counterpunch grips clamp to the inside of the bar ends to stay solidly in place and the Granite Stash do the same, with an expanding rubber collar. On mine, I had the Race face closed end...

www.emtbforums.com

I also have a set of these and they work exactly as described. They probably saved me a couple of broken fingers last week too…

 

[MOTO13]

I've found these to be great when running fast trails which are tight, instead of hooking up - so far I've always glanced off.

LoamLab Components – Counterpunch

The LoamLab Counterpunch makes clipping trees less problematic by protecting the 5th digit and metacarpal from impact, greatly reducing the chance of a broken bone.

www.loamlab.bike

You can make them work with the granite stash tools too if you use them.

Loamlab Counterpunch Grips with Granite Stash Tools ?

With the Counterpunch grips I thought I wouldn't be able to use the Granite Stash tools anymore. The Counterpunch grips clamp to the inside of the bar ends to stay solidly in place and the Granite Stash do the same, with an expanding rubber collar. On mine, I had the Race face closed end...

www.emtbforums.com

Those short bar end hooks to protect from bashing your finger seem like a good idea...until you hook a sapling, stray branch or weeds...then you're fuc%ed. When I first started riding years ago, I had something similar on my Cannondale. I got shit whipped when I hooked onto a branch. Never rode with them again.

 

[Jackware]

I find 795mm is the sweet spot for me, just feels so much better that 800mm, and 790 feels too cramped.

 

[Doomanic]

Those short bar end hooks to protect from bashing your finger seem like a good idea...until you hook a sapling, stray branch or weeds...then you're fuc%ed. When I first started riding years ago, I had something similar on my Cannondale. I got shit whipped when I hooked onto a branch. Never rode with them again.

That's what I thought before I tried them. They are about the same length as the thickness of your fingers so smaller stuff just gets deflected. The real difference is when you brush an immovable object and the shape of them stop the bar hooking up.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Those short bar end hooks to protect from bashing your finger seem like a good idea...until you hook a sapling, stray branch or weeds...then you're fuc%ed. When I first started riding years ago, I had something similar on my Cannondale. I got shit whipped when I hooked onto a branch. Never rode with them again.

I thought the same before I tried them having also had something similar, but longer, before.

I hate to agree with doomanic, but he's right, they seem to work well and don't hook up. A lot of my riding this year has been overgrown trails and so far (I can't guarantee a freak occurrence won't happen tomorrow !!!) everything seems to smoothly slide around them.

I've never really thought about it before, but your hand effectively fills the "catch" area - hence why you don't seem to hook up when you think you might.

 

[MOTO13]

You hand filling up that gap makes sense. It still freaks me out a bit though. Def something to consider.

 

[Rickster]

I thought the same before I tried them having also had something similar, but longer, before.

I hate to agree with doomanic, but he's right, they seem to work well and don't hook up. A lot of my riding this year has been overgrown trails and so far (I can't guarantee a freak occurrence won't happen tomorrow !!!) everything seems to smoothly slide around them.

I've never really thought about it before, but your hand effectively fills the "catch" area - hence why you don't seem to hook up when you think you might.

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What ?! Who keeps their bare hands on the bars all the time? . Sorry but no thanks, having those bar ends with even the slightest possibility of a snag , I am out.
I can’t even imagine running a set of these in the woods, they scream out “snag me snag me !!

 

[Zimmerframe]

I can’t even imagine running a set of these in the woods, they scream out “snag me snag me !!

Agreed, I had something similar to the Ergon one. It was nice for support, but if you went down an overgrown downhill, you got to the bottom having harvested about 3kg's of bracken on each side and looked like you were trying to ride a camouflaged bike

 

[MOTO13]

Speaking of bare hands, does anyone else wear gloves all the time? I don't think I have ever ridden without gloves.

 

[Doomanic]

Who keeps their bare hands on the bars all the time

I find that keeping my hands on the bars reduces the number of unscheduled dismounts I have to endure, how often do you ride narrow singletrack without holding on to the bars?

 

[Zimmerframe]

Speaking of bare hands, does anyone else wear gloves all the time? I don't think I have ever ridden without gloves.

Normally I'm gloves, gloves, gloves, gloves .. I always seem to catch a flying rock, get whipped by a branch, catch a bramble or gorse or just fall off ..

These one are cheap and cheerful, but far far better than the fox ones above for gorse and brambles.

I've ridden gloveless a little lately whilst it was stupidly hot, but mainly taking it easy - the times I didn't I just ended up with shredded hands.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I find that keeping my hands on the bars reduces the number of unscheduled dismounts I have to endure, how often do you ride narrow singletrack without holding on to the bars?

This is an emtb forum ...

It's just not the done thing to eat your pizza and drink beer whilst riding with your gloves on ....

 

[Rickster]

Speaking of bare hands, does anyone else wear gloves all the time? I don't think I have ever ridden without gloves.

Always , never any excuses not too. Far too many years of dumb experiences without them.

 

[Rickster]

I find that keeping my hands on the bars reduces the number of unscheduled dismounts I have to endure, how often do you ride narrow singletrack without holding on to the bars?

Single track ? Not there that’s for sure, but on Long logging roads , you bet

 

[Doomanic]

And how often do you get branches over your bars on logging roads?

 

[Rickster]

You would be very surprised my friend especially all the decommissioned one’s.

 

[steve_sordy]

Speaking of bare hands, does anyone else wear gloves all the time? I don't think I have ever ridden without gloves.

I wear gloves to protect my palms when I come off on gravel (it's always gravel when I fall off!). I did once fall off without gloves, early on in my mtb life and NEVER AGAIN!
I also wear gloves to protect from the cold and the wet.

 

[KnollyBro]

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For sure. Grips aren't made to endure that kind of shearing stress by themselves.

I hear what you are saying but 10mm at the the bar end when most (how much is most any way?) of the force is going thru your palms of your hands. I cant see there is much shear force going on from your hands right at the end of the bars. Then again, I run 800mm bars and have 10mm+ spare at the end of each bar for crash protection (I would rather hit a tree or the ground with the bar ends than my hands).

Normally I'm gloves, gloves, gloves, gloves .. I always seem to catch a flying rock, get whipped by a branch, catch a bramble or gorse or just fall off ..

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These one are cheap and cheerful, but far far better than the fox ones above for gorse and brambles.

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I've ridden gloveless a little lately whilst it was stupidly hot, but mainly taking it easy - the times I didn't I just ended up with shredded hands.

I can't seem to find any gloves with knuckle protection these days. These have been my go to gloves for years but Fox doesn't make them any more. I don't beleive in D30. What kind are those? Where did you get them from? Are they thin enough for summer use?