This is a great point, and frankly one that the Levo has proved.
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robikinkela
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Sure! So I should sell my gen.3 to upgrade, spend at least 5000 euros to buy let's say a Vala, and have a battery with 100 W/h less, take another 500 euros from my wallet for the RE and do the same things I do today with my bike? Mmmmm...This is a great point, and frankly one that the Levo has proved.
Massive 50% write down on Specialized market value by Merida - from a timing perspective not the best time to launch a new bike.
I suspect you have read my reply incorrectly.
If you read it again, I’m saying the 700w/h battery is a better compromise than an RE.
Polar
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It's not funny that everybody dont have a choice since chinese technology is getting better and cheaper day by day
Polar
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They are launching within a few weeks so if the market don't love the price what do Specialized do with the massiv stock of G3 - it's a catch-22
robikinkela
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It's not a good time to buy and sell either. Look at the car market in Europe: the best-selling car is the Dacia Sandero, a spartan and cheap car compared to the others... people don't have money to spend anymore and if they have to spend they do it wisely. Just to be clear, the Dacia Sandero is the CUBE of e-bikes... a good bike that focuses on the quality/price ratio. It's all getting really expensive, I just spent 320 euros to have my fork and shock absorber serviced...
I'm seriously considering keeping my gen 3 for a very long time, overhauling the engine when necessary and replacing the battery if it dies...
robikinkela
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We are saying the same thing. My answer was ironic
Yeah, motor is not everything, handling and build quality is important for me, on that chinese garbage frame and even stock stem is flexing
Its a really good time to buy but hard time to sell-opposite to covid times
I can buy new Comp Carbon 2025 for 5900 eur which is fantastic price
etoni
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At the very least, the upcoming levo should have coasting (intentional), pedal kick mode, fast charger, a decent display, an engine that doesn't need to be throttled for it to work.
The frame is surprisingly good actually.Yeah, motor is not everything, handling and build quality is important for me, on that chinese garbage frame and even stock stem is flexing
The stem is a weak point though.
Just a few weeks and we will see...
Georgedukesa
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You can’t fix idiocracy 
etoni
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for 5900 eur you can buy today, ebike with all this new things:
intentional overrun, maneuver through rough terrain with a pedal kick (bosch), multiple magnetic pick-up (dji) 2.8h charging (dji) or an equivalent display (dji).
I understand but its all about personal preferences, I am riding my gen 2 Levo with 7000km 90% of the time 35/55 assist, so I dont need more powerful motor, and dont care too much about charging or display, just pure Enduro ride with assist in steep hills.
robikinkela
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5900 euros is a good price but because of that how much can I sell my two year old comp carbon for? Suddenly that price of 5900 is not so great for a bike designed four years ago...
Oldandslowguy
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I agree, I have had 2 sets of i9 wheels (305 rim, Hydra hubs) that have failed. I replaced the rear hub bearings at about 1300 miles. For the $1400 I spent for the set, my next wheels won’t be i9. What I liked was an American company and what I thought was a great product, not so much anymore. I can say thier customer service is really good though.
I would, Bosch is a better motor and the Vala is overall a much better bike.
If you can afford a Vala it’s a much better bike.
And what is ''much better''? Because geometry is very similar, it has smaller capacity battery and mechanical GX derailleur with basic Fox float suspension for 8500 eur is absolute joke.
Only one thing I like is that motor in the frame looks nice and small.
Only one thing I like is that motor in the frame looks nice and small.
Georgedukesa
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Everyone is speaking about how fast and the performance of the DJI
You can buy a Toyota GTR with that does 0-60 in 3 seconds THEN YOU CAN BUY A PORSCHE GT S4 same speed but dude it’s a frikken Porsch
So you want cheap Chinese fast gogo bike then buy the DJI you want the leader of the pack for past ten years buy a Specialized
You can buy a Toyota GTR with that does 0-60 in 3 seconds THEN YOU CAN BUY A PORSCHE GT S4 same speed but dude it’s a frikken Porsch
So you want cheap Chinese fast gogo bike then buy the DJI you want the leader of the pack for past ten years buy a Specialized
Everything that matters is better like the frame and motor. Components can be changed just like you changed everything on your Levo.
The only thing what may be better and more reliable is motor. But the point is, for almost 3000 Eur price difference I can buy Fox Factory suspension and carbon wheels and then Levo will blow out that overpriced joke.
Rando_12345
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Perfect analogy, because Nissan make the GT-R and many people consider it their dream car
You can buy a Toyota GTR with that does 0-60 in 3 seconds THEN YOU CAN BUY A PORSCHE GT S4 same speed but dude it’s a frikken Porsch
So you want cheap Chinese fast gogo bike then buy the DJI you want the leader of the pack for past ten years buy a Specialized
Georgedukesa
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Still a Datsun /nissan “can’t take the bush outa the monkey”
sethimus
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your price is already with VAT included. those american prices are not.
electricbogaloo
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I've seen pro models for that price.
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