Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 - Discussion Thread for 8th April launch
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Power1tobe
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Well I paid $13.5, going to be an awkward conversation with dealer lol
We have no idea if this is legit. Why does it lift alloy models? We haven’t heard anything about alloy models.
Yep, T-type chains wear fairly fast as is on my Levo3 due to the extra demands
Hey love the conversation here, yes your points on the standard for 48V systems stand on solid grounds.
The first reason why I speculated on 14S3P and 14S2P was first because the 52V and 48V ebike system aren't to far apart from an electrical point of view. Adding a link to a page that talks about the interchangeability of the 48 and 52V systems, what the advantages of 52V batteries on 48V motors are and what the advantages of 48V batteries vs 52 are.
The second reason was because of the Levo spec number of 840Wh and the currently most popular high capacity cell from LG the M58T with a capacity of 5,57Ah.
42cells(14S3P) x 5,57Ah x 3,6V = 842Wh
But hey we all can be wrong, there are different points of viewing things.
If we take the fact it has the new Brose motor and that they kept the original Brose battery specs then the battery in fact are both a 13S3P configuration but using different capacity cells.
The original Brose batteries are 814Wh and 632Wh which would imply to:
13S3P - 39cells x 3,6V x 5,8Ah = 814Wh
13S3P - 39cells x 3,6V x 4,5Ah = 632Wh
If Spesh used this configuration then that means they for marketing names rounded(like u implied) up for the big battery and down for smaller battery.
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So there’s an alloy version launching at the same time as the carbon?
smart114
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The 840-Wh battery has 39 cells, each containing 13s3 p (6.0 A x 3.6 V = approx. 840 Wh). The rated voltage is 46.8 V and is rounded to 48 V for marketing purposes.
However, I don't think the full 840 Wh can be used because the battery switches off at a cell voltage of 3 V instead of 2.5 V. I think about 780 Wh is usable.
However, I don't think the full 840 Wh can be used because the battery switches off at a cell voltage of 3 V instead of 2.5 V. I think about 780 Wh is usable.
Do you maybe know which brand cells they use for each battery pack?
I think that is more important than the pack capacity numbers, the quality of the cells and a good BMS is key for a good performing battery pack.
In my opinion, the key to the battery design is:
- "SWAT storage, side entry battery" on the frame details spec and
-"SWAT internal downtube storage".
The battery will be split into two parts that together will give 840wh of which 210wh/280wh will be removable laterally leaving space for the SWAT.
Long rides with a lot of battery and backpack.
Short rides with little battery (630wh - 560wh and SWAT.
It also possibly supports the range extender in the bottle to exceed 1000wh. In fact it has two versions of range extender
- "SWAT storage, side entry battery" on the frame details spec and
-"SWAT internal downtube storage".
The battery will be split into two parts that together will give 840wh of which 210wh/280wh will be removable laterally leaving space for the SWAT.
Long rides with a lot of battery and backpack.
Short rides with little battery (630wh - 560wh and SWAT.
It also possibly supports the range extender in the bottle to exceed 1000wh. In fact it has two versions of range extender
Rangemaster
New Member
Man, guys here in USA that new bike is going to cost a lot because of the new import taxes. Glad I bought a gen3 comp on sale a couple of weeks ago. Man it just bad timing right now.
westcoastmtbr
Active member
suddenly this is all getting interesting. Let's see what the US pricing becomes, and we'll all decide then. I am more keen on the direction of this bike, more, and more. Now whether this is the next coming of J, then we'll have to see. For most, switching to this new bike might be a wait thing, for someone ready to purchase, what is another 2-3k US dollar premium to pay for the bike you really want, vs. Amflow which really just has the power.?!?
westcoastmtbr
Active member
I was wondering the same. As for the tariffs, let's see how many bikes were already paid and are in the USA already.
Unclear at all here, was just going off price sheet release by Spesh
Rangemaster
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When will they announce the new version? All I seen is many pictures on this site, nothing on website.
Greeno
New Member
Post #338 question.
What 21700 cell has a 6ahr rating?
5ahr is max here in the states and the 58E is only 5.5ahr.
As far as using 52v battery’s for 48v systems that used to be the way to go but most BMS manufacturers changed that back in the beginning of 2024.
Bafang for example, cant use a 52v pack with a newer 48v controller.
You can re-flash the software to go from 48-52v but it’s a process.
Better to just stay in your lane with the correct voltage.
What 21700 cell has a 6ahr rating?
5ahr is max here in the states and the 58E is only 5.5ahr.
As far as using 52v battery’s for 48v systems that used to be the way to go but most BMS manufacturers changed that back in the beginning of 2024.
Bafang for example, cant use a 52v pack with a newer 48v controller.
You can re-flash the software to go from 48-52v but it’s a process.
Better to just stay in your lane with the correct voltage.
winters3
New Member
from design it looks identical (at leat for me) like an SL2 just a more fat downtube...
singletrackminded
Member
My dealer just confirmed my pre-ordered Sworks bike has shipped. Should see it on Monday. Great news!
Pinky Pilot
New Member
Saw an sworks in person today. Unreal. Paint is colorshift burnt orange/dark red/dark blue/black metallic.
You can indeed switch between class 1 and 3 via the remote. Battery size is smaller than I expected.
Swat just behind the headtube and about the size of a small seatbag.
2.3” tires. Definitely room for 2.6”. Definitely no room for 29”
You can indeed switch between class 1 and 3 via the remote. Battery size is smaller than I expected.
Swat just behind the headtube and about the size of a small seatbag.
2.3” tires. Definitely room for 2.6”. Definitely no room for 29”
Polar
Well-known member
Many hated the new black app after the old red was taken down so is it going to come a completely new app for the G4 or will the black work?
Georgedukesa
Member
Please if you could DM me with pics I’ve ordered but there’s a delay on the shipment transport issues
If you could send of the battery side especially apologies to ask but in a crappy situation
Desert_Turtle
Active member
Mine shipped Wednesday, I might have it this weekend!
Surely Specialized won't let dealers give the bike out before official launch date?
Pinky Pilot
New Member
Same app.
It was discussed in the original (now closed) thread.
But yes, it's pretty similar, Gen4 over an SL2
We did a mockup based on an SL adding in what we knew and had this before there were any leaked images, we got a lot right, mainly due to the SL similarities to start with :
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It was only the mockup, quite a few things were wrong compared to the actual Gen4. The image design was discussed here - mainly the area round the headtube was completely wrong, but it was only supposed to be a rough guess.First real image of the all blacked out version?
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