Levo Gen 3 Levo Gen 4 2024 Rumours... And assorted random chat ....

[RickBullotta]

Cheaper replacement parts. Tech riding eats drivetrain parts. Transmissions are just another way to jack up bike prices and higher prices mean more room for profit.

Not so. AXS Eagle and regular SRAM Eagle use the same wear parts (chain, cassette, chainring). And the AXS derailleurs are extremely durable. I agree that Transmission is a waste though.

 

[mustclime]

Don’t forget all the t type cassettes have one or more alloy cogs. You can coat alloy with all the crap you want but it will still go sharks tooth faster than steel cogs. I will admit the flat back chains have larger pins and rollers that will improve wear but do price difference to “ stretch “ life add up?

 

[electricbogaloo]

Obviously not. In my experience aluminum cogs are not made for the power of ebike motors. Most people don't seem to notice because they 'shift' with the motor. But if you really use those cogs in steep terrain how they are intended my chains jump over them in turbo after 2500-3000 km. And I'm a rather light rider and don't ride much in turbo.

 

[ant02496]

T-type transmission is the best!

 

[roccobarocco]

Somehow, this is going off topic...

 

[mustclime]

T-type transmission is the best!

Overpriced junk, just another way to jack up bike prices $800-$1500 bucks. On top of that the replacement parts cost a lot more.

 

[ant02496]

Overpriced junk, just another way to jack up bike prices $800-$1500 bucks. On top of that the replacement parts cost a lot more.

When I purchase I dont look at the price. Aesthetics and functionality. Ive tried nearly every derailer in the market, T-Type my favorite.
One less cable on the bike, I love it when theres only the break cables.
If your worried about the price, please consider making more bread.

 

[mustclime]

When I purchase I dont look at the price. Aesthetics and functionality. Ive tried nearly every derailer in the market, T-Type my favorite.
One less cable on the bike, I love it when theres only the break cables.
If your worried about the price, please consider making more bread.

It’s cool, I’m sure the rumors that Bluetooth shifters causing male thingie shrinkage are totally false .

 

[Moderator]

To avoid Moderation of this thread i.e. deletion of spurious posts, please try to keep it on topic, and stay civil to others posting here.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Overpriced junk, just another way to jack up bike prices $800-$1500 bucks. On top of that the replacement parts cost a lot more.

I kind of agree with you.

I have 3 Levos , One with T-type, one with Axs, and one I built up as a spare for when have guests, and that one I put on Shimano XT link glide.

I enjoy the AXS as it shifts the fastest, but the best shifting group is the XT link glide..... UP AND DOWN.
the T-type is sure footed but slow.

Next time round with the gen 4, I think I'll get the frame option and put on XT link glide. Let's hope they keep the cable ports unlike what they have done with the new stumpy.

It's the same as buying a new iPhone every year.... you think it will make a huge difference in your life but after a few weeks you realise its the same, that's how I feel about T-type

On that note and to keep it on topic.
Gen4:
New 110 motor.
BLuetooth remote. (Wireless)
New TCU screen
No sidearm
Higher capacity battery.

 

[roccobarocco]

I guess they will use a Mahle Motor? It makes sense...

 

[Madden126]

Been riding my Gen 3 for the past 1.5 years and almost 5k KM on it, the idea of updating to a new Gen4 has been growing on me. Curious about what Specialized has to offer on its new version, especially after all the new goodies that were announced on that new DJI bike ...

 

[OZI]

I asked another specialized dealer, and he said I have to wait at least until October for the new Levo. Anyway, at first they will only introduce the top-spec models.

Difficult/challenging times for the people responsible for developing the new Levo/Kenevo, new developments and new trends every 6 month.
IMO, Levo GEN4 should have 2 battery options, 600Wh and 800Wh, weigh around 20Kg (600Wh) and an EVO version with more travel weighing 22Kg. The motor should be smaller and more incorporated like the Cannondale Monterra SL or the AMFLOW. In the next 2 years, all brands will have 160mm/150mm models with these characteristics, or better.
Specialized will have to present something really special in September/October.

 

[Ou812]

I kind of agree with you.

I have 3 Levos , One with T-type, one with Axs, and one I built up as a spare for when have guests, and that one I put on Shimano XT link glide.

I enjoy the AXS as it shifts the fastest, but the best shifting group is the XT link glide..... UP AND DOWN.
the T-type is sure footed but slow.

Next time round with the gen 4, I think I'll get the frame option and put on XT link glide. Let's hope they keep the cable ports unlike what they have done with the new stumpy.

It's the same as buying a new iPhone every year.... you think it will make a huge difference in your life but after a few weeks you realise its the same, that's how I feel about T-type

On that note and to keep it on topic.
Gen4:
New 110 motor.
BLuetooth remote. (Wireless)
New TCU screen
No sidearm
Higher capacity battery.

I imagine they’ll be doing away with the shifter cable ports on the new Levo too, especially with SRAM releasing the S-1000 transmission. Now even the lowest spec “NX” bikes will be wireless. IMO, shimano needs to release a “real” wireless system if they want to stay relevant.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

I imagine they’ll be doing away with the shifter cable ports on the new Levo too, especially with SRAM releasing the S-1000 transmission. Now even the lowest spec “NX” bikes will be wireless. IMO, shimano needs to release a “real” wireless system if they want to stay relevant.

I suspect Spec know something.

Taking away the cable ports they intentionally exclude Shimnao from the party .... Unless Shimano is about to drop its own wireless UDH setup.

 

[gbcoke]

Full wireless XT and XTR groups are inbound towards the end of the year.

 

[Ou812]

I suspect Spec know something.

Taking away the cable ports they intentionally exclude Shimnao from the party .... Unless Shimano is about to drop its own wireless UDH setup.

The rumour is Shimano has a wireless set up that’s coming soon, supposed to be by the end of the year. I know some brands dropped Shimano all together and are exclusively SRAM now so Shimano has some catching up to do.

 

[Ou812]

Full wireless XT and XTR groups are inbound towards the end of the year.

Yep, this is what I was told too. If it can shift as good as their cable stuff I’ll be swapping back to Shimano, otherwise I’ll be staying on the transmission.

 

[RickBullotta]

Wireless brakes are coming too. But not to my bike.

 

[mrhaboobi]

Can you get back on topic guys.

 

[Ribinrobin]

Can you get back on topic guys.

Sadly no updates yet. I think we're looking at the usual time frames which is autumn/fall

 

[Gallijam]

So so far I see the new levo comes with the sram maven brakes and apparently slightly change frame and more axs stuff

 

[gbcoke]

thread needs more Levo4 pics

Let's start with one

 

[Chicane]

thread needs more Levo4 pics

When I get home later and will post a pic of mine.

 

[mrhaboobi]

slightly change frame ? what parts?

So so far I see the new levo comes with the sram maven brakes and apparently slightly change frame and more axs stuff

 

[Ou812]

slightly change frame ? what parts?

My predictions are no more sidearm to look more like the Levo SL/Stumpjumper 15, no cable ports for shifting so wireless only on the carbon models and an updated motor.

 

[Ribinrobin]

interesting if they do the levo without cable ports where they done the sl2 with them.

 

[Ou812]

interesting if they do the levo without cable ports where they done the sl2 with them.

The SL2 came out before SRAM released the S-1000 transmission, I think that was the deciding factor in getting rid of the shift cable ports on the new Stumpjumper. I see them going the same route though, carbon models will be wireless only and the eventual aluminium versions will have cable ports.

 

[Ribinrobin]

cables for the poor

 

[DS.]

Let’s hope they knock that weight down to 20kg