Levo Gen 3 Levo Gen 4 2024 Rumours... And assorted random chat ....

[Phil M]

oopps sorry , master of marketing , didnt know i was on the apprentice just expressing an opinion , and btw imho i dont think that it will , most of the people that express an interest in buying an E bike that i talk to dont even mention power , all they are interested in is , how far and how long , i think that range is far more imprtant to people than power , unless you are Jeremy clarkson

I’m with you on this… my current Levo I rarely leave eco mode as I do big rides.

Odd occasion I might put it into trail or turbo but probably for 30 secs max.. I do not need more power at all. Give me an internal 900wh though!!

 

[emtbeast]

If I understand correctly, the power is reduced (at least on the LEVO SL) as soon as the battery reaches the 20% mark, regardless of whether it's the internal battery or the RE.
This means that if I use the RE first and then the internal battery, I go through the 20% limit twice and have the power loss twice. So it makes sense to use the batteries in parallel...

The power is reduced at a low charge at all systems to protect the cells that are at a low voltage at this point, I would be suspicious of a system that does not do this.
This is most probably the idea why the Bosch system works in parallel(dual mode).
If the batterys share the load, they heat up less(are more efficient) and so the whole system works more efficiently.

 

[mike172]

2025 Levo will have an ~850WH battery with an optional 250~300WH range extender. The battery will be modular and can be taken out from the side of the frame, allowing for quick swaps, there will also be no drag when running no battery. There will also be a 600WH option to save weight.

The normal models will come with 100NM of Torque. The S-works model will have 111NM of Torque.

The S-works will be priced around $18,000.

Release will be early to mid april.

This information all looks credible to me.

 

[claho]

It's optional as far as I know, and a range extender on it's own is really weak to consistently power a FF ebike. Probably the name 》range extender 《 says that it's not meant for trail riding, but to extend range, so more for the long days in the wilderness, at the end it's personal choice...

Broke the thread a bit with this back to the Levo shall we

Any leaks in sight

tbh i dont need more power , id buy a motor bike if that was the case ,more range would be my priority

...so, I don't think you've quite grasped the ‘eMTB concept’ yet. If your idea is to get as much battery capacity back home as possible and engine power doesn't matter, then that's a nice toy for you. But if you take the approach that the engine power represents the technical limit of what can be achieved uphill, then your statement that ‘you don't need more powerful engines’ is incomprehensible.
I think both approaches are legitimate – but to say that you don't need more engine power seems amateurish to me...

 

[Bermo EMTB]

no i think youre missing the point ,amateurish pmsl , you are right i dont get paid to ride my bike , do you ?? my point is I DONT NEED ANY MORE POWER to get up the terrain that i use around here , and tbh there wont be many steeper climbs around the country , what there is out there is ample , if you need more power buy a motor bike , i would prefer more range , but to say you need more power to me is pointless because there comes a point where it becomes unusable. you arent Jeremy Clarkson , are you ??? ohhh i love a good debate !!

 

[lar1337]

...so, I don't think you've quite grasped the ‘eMTB concept’ yet. If your idea is to get as much battery capacity back home as possible and engine power doesn't matter, then that's a nice toy for you. But if you take the approach that the engine power represents the technical limit of what can be achieved uphill, then your statement that ‘you don't need more powerful engines’ is incomprehensible.
I think both approaches are legitimate – but to say that you don't need more engine power seems amateurish to me...

With skill 85nm is plenty

 

[claho]

With skill 85nm is plenty

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you're right!

 

[lar1337]

I still love the tech and new stuff so not against more of anything TBF

 

[head]

I think both approaches are legitimate – but to say that you don't need more engine power seems amateurish to me...

1st, it's not an engine; it's a motor.
2nd, calling someone amateurish just because they don't want (need) more power seems condescending to me.

 

[Murch]

It’s always interesting when people assume that because something works for them, it should work for everyone. We all ride for different reasons, and what I value in an e-bike might be different from what you prioritize. More power might not matter to you, but that doesn’t mean it’s pointless for others. And while skill is important, dismissing power as unnecessary overlooks the fact that different riders, terrains, and riding styles can all benefit from it in their own ways.

 

[ckkone]

It’s always interesting when people assume that because something works for them, it should work for everyone.

This why so many people like the Rail+ and Levo, they are jack of all trade bikes but master of none.

All the top bikes will have triple digit Nm, even the Gen5 Bosch after its next software update and new sceen release.