Is There A No-Brainer Upgrade for eMTB

[The Flying Dutchman]

My top 3:

1. TYRES: get some decent rubber that suits your riding conditions. A lot of bikes come with thin casing, why? I'm not sure but they won't last long. go for a DD or DH casing. Be sure to go tubeless at the same time.
2. GREASE: Is grease an upgrade? Unless your LBS is top-notch, chances are your bike is under greased. Grease everything from day one!
3. BRAKE PADS: If your bike came with organic pads, swap them for some metallics for better performance under heat and longer life span. Organics have a habit of running out mid-ride

 

[Gary]

. A lot of bikes come with thin casing, why? I'm not sure but they won't last long. go for a DD or DH casing. Be sure to go tubeless at the same time.

Why? Because they're a LOT lighter. Which absolutely transforms how a bike with a 25lb frame handles.
And they last just fine if you're not a clumsy no finesse bastard who feels the need to run as low pressure as possible scared of a little less ultimate grip. By all means run DH casings if your riding and terrain warrant it. Most folks don't. Even more so I'd have thought in Holland

I agree tho. Tyres should be No1 choice on any performance vehicle.

 

[Jdog]

Why? Because they're a LOT lighter.

Chatting absolute bollocks again @Gary but no surprise there.

Below is an MBR review/details of the stock spesh tyres including weight:

Below is also an MBR review of a number or tyres including weight:

The above review can be found here if anyone wants some decent and factual information rather then the shit Gary tries to force down everyone's throat: Best mountain bike tyres in 2020: front tyres and rear tyres - MBR

I also found another review that listed the spesh tyres as approximately 1100g:

That same website (worldwidecyclery.com/) also reviewed and weighed the minions:

Even the DD Minions are lighter than the stock specialized tyres on the Maxxis website below:

When I replaced my spesh tyres I weighed mine I can confirm the minions are lighter than the stock spesh tyres.

They're fitted because they're a cheaper in house brand and not necessarily (and factually) because they're lighter.

 

[Gary]

Chatting absolute bollocks again Gary but no surprise there.

Below is an irrelevant copy and pasted tyre data sheet... Blah blah..blah... and even more pish

When I replaced my spesh tyres I weighed mine I can confirm the minions are lighter than the stock spesh tyres.

They're fitted because they're a cheaper in house brand and not necessarily (and factually) because they're lighter.

WTF mentioned Specialized?

Yeah. no one!!
We're talking about Ebikes in general. Some of which come spec'd with lighter tyres. some don't.

You do know there are OTHER brands of Ebike out there than Specialized, eh? Pretty difficult for a southern Kenevo owner to grasp I know

EXO tyres pretty much all weigh sub 900g, some as low as 750g (Yeah, I weigh stuff too)
DH tyres generally over 1100g some as high as 1400g
That IS a LOT of weight difference.

I know you're still hurting from being WRONG about something else too but please stop constantly trying to disprove anything FACTUAL I say. it's sad mate. Terribly sad.

 

[Jdog]

WTF mentioned Specialized?

I used Specilized as an example and it proved you wrong. Apologies you don't like my example, deal with it princess.

You do know there are OTHER brands of Ebike out there than Specialized, eh?

Here he is again, the keyboard warrior speculating what others know. But listen, lets talk facts here...I chose my current brand of bike - Specialized, I spoke facts about the standard tyres, I backed these facts up with pretty pictures (as we know you are a bit simple) I spoke about my personal experience that minions are in FACT lighter than the standard spesh tyres and what did you come back with? Tears.
Where are you facts Gary? Please show the people.

EXO tyres pretty much all weigh sub 900g, some as low as 750g (Yeah, I weigh stuff too)
DH tyres generally over 1100g some as high as 1400g
That IS a LOT of weight difference.

Yes Gary, this is the point make, maxxis often offer a better and lighter tyre but at a higher price point. Where is your proof that the stock tyres are lighter? Fool

I know you're still hurting from being WRONG about something else too but please stop constantly trying to disprove anything FACTUAL I say. it's sad mate. Terribly sad.

Please please please point out one fact or anything that you've backed up here, all I see is a little bitch who is so mad I schooled him AGAIN and showed what a fraud he is.

 

[Roger20]

And they last just fine if you're not a clumsy no finesse bastard who feels the need to run as low pressure as possible scared of a little less ultimate grip. By all means run DH casings if your riding and terrain warrant it. Most folks don't. .

Gary - those who don't know you could get upset by comments like this. Yes - you have qualified it with your second sentence but many new to these forums can be intimidated by judgements like this and reluctant to post for fear of being shot down in flames by E*POWAH Elite World Champions who do have lots of knowledge. These forums are supposed to be fun.

My last bike was a Cube and came with Schwalbe Nobby Nics without Snakeskin casings. Result was a split in the first 12 months - lesson learnt. Here in the Yorkshire Dales it's limestone country and hammering down a rock garden needs tyres built for the job not compromised by price and weight. I run my tyres at normal sensible pressures and have much more confidence in the OE Butchers that Specialized chose rather than lightweight options that might have saved a few grammes. So here at least in the Dales and the Lake District I would say most folk do need tough casings , particularly on heavy e-bikes. It could be a long walk home!

 

[Jdog]

@Roger20 don't worry or listen to Gary, he is well known as the forum clown.

Let me just sum this tough guy up...

He hides behind a generic name of "Gary" so no one really knows who he is. I found the top definition of Gary on Urban Dictionary to be fitting and funny.

He has a generic profile picture of a Shimano display to further keep his identity anonymous:

And to complete the full set of being a typical internet troll keyboard warrior he has a restricted profile.

Down south he would be known as a little bitch.

 

[wepn]

a clumsy no finesse bastard

there are OTHER brands of Ebike out there than Specialized, eh? Pretty difficult for a southern Kenevo owner to grasp I know

many new to these forums can be intimidated by judgements like this and reluctant to post for fear of being shot down in flames by E*POWAH Elite World Champion

Don't be. Gary's description closely resembles the reflection in my mirror and I quite enjoy it.

 

[Zimmerframe]

@Roger20 don't worry or listen to Gary, he is well known as the forum clown.

Let me just sum this tough guy up...

He hides behind a generic name of "Gary" so no one really knows who he is. I found the top definition of Gary on Urban Dictionary to be fitting and funny.
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He has a generic profile picture of a Shimano display to further keep his identity anonymous:
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And to complete the full set of being a typical internet troll keyboard warrior he has a restricted profile.
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Down south he would be known as a little bitch.

Jay, you obviously have a beef still with Gary and you're showing no signs of letting it go and realising it just doesn't matter. As said previously, if you don't like what he says, just click ignore. I tried it, but it also stopped the daily full frontal naked pm's we all get.

 

[maynard]

Wow. U guys are pretty nasty . Yeah he is a bit of a dick . And now u guys are being bigger dicks . Guess what ? My dick is bigger than all ur dicks. Makes for interesting reading though. Xox

 

[Gary]

You're being an absolute idiot @Jay8Miller
Stalking me is pretty pathetic.
Not quite as pathetic as your illegible private messages asking to meet up and threatening to "slap the ears off me" were. But pretty close.
just ignore me mate.
constantly trying to have a go at me is doing your mental health no good.

#Pray4Jay

 

[simonk]

 

[Jdog]

Jay, you obviously have a beef still with Gary and you're showing no signs of letting it go and realising it just doesn't matter.

But it is too much fun to school this internet troll

You're being an absolute idiot @Jay8Miller
Stalking me is pretty pathetic.

HAHAHAHA

 

[2wheeledwalbert]

Wheres the bloody popcorn when I need it....essential trip to Tesco officer.

 

[Gary]

OMG! my heartrate just went up to 41bpm

You're such a clever guy Jay... how can I possibly retort?

 

[Jdog]

Lets all have a moment of silence for the fallen keyboard warrior

 

[Gary]

silence?

sounds good

 

[cozzy]

Easy to not have to read others shite if you dont want to.
I only have a single self proclaimed expert in everything in my ignore list.

 

[Jdog]

silence?

sounds good

This "comeback" is the equivalent of saying your mum.

You've been killed Gary, go dig a hole and put yourself in it.

 

[Gary]

Jay's input in this thread...

 

[Jdog]

Jay's input in this thread...

Yet still he try's with a comeback

 

[R120]

@Jay8Miller if you don't like @Gary input then just put him on ignore plenty of others have - whatever you think of how he gets his point across he knows more about bikes than 99.9% of the forum and about 80% of what he post is helping others out, and nothing in this thread that you have input is worth of a mike drop or celebratory meme - if you cant see that he's just playing you at your own game here then maybe just step away form the keyboard, the only thing this is exchange is doing is reflecting badly on you as much as anything on him.Its boring when every thread you guys both post in you decide to start a keyboard war.

And @Gary play nice please, you have already taken your gloves off so lets just leave it at that.

So I guess the answer to is their a no-brainer upgrade to an EMTB Forum member would be to remember to put your brains back in before posting

 

[inwoods]

 

[Jdog]

@Jay8Miller if you don't like @Gary input then just put him on ignore plenty of others have - whatever you think of how he gets his point across he knows more about bikes than 99.9% of the forum and about 80% of what he post is helping others out, and nothing in this thread that you have input is worth of a mike drop or celebratory meme - if you cant see that he's just playing you at your own game here then maybe just step away form the keyboard, the only thing this is exchange is doing is reflecting badly on you as much as anything on him.Its boring when every thread you guys both post in you decide to start a keyboard war.

And @Gary play nice please, you have already taken your gloves off so lets just leave it at that.

So I guess the answer to is their a no-brainer upgrade to an EMTB Forum member would be to remember to put your brains back in before posting

Arrr bless, Gary had to get someone else to fight his battles.

Completely disagree with what you said @R120 (and clearly so do others based on reactions to the comments) but thank you for your forced Gary-esk opinion which pointlessly speculates with no facts and equally brings absolutely nothing to this thread.

 

[R120]

Arrr bless, Gary had to get someone else to fight his battles.

Completely disagree with what you said @R120 (and clearly so do others based on reactions to the comments) but thank you for you forced Gary-esk opinion which equally brought absolutely nothing to this thread.

Firstly this is my opinion as a member, and not me writing as a staff member

Ok you need to calm down

Read back through this thread and see who escalated it, and started going on the attack, then think again about what you are doing, I dont care if you like him or not, and I dont care who is right or wrong, what I do care is that you have taken this thread off on a totally unnecessary tangent all to have a go at him, and he in return has had a go back at you.

Re read my post, its clearly telling both of you to calm down, look at your post #97 and tell me that wasn't completely unnecessary in the context of the conversation and was only aimed at having a go at him and baiting a reaction and didn't do anything but drag the conversation down a level.

Grow up, because crap like this is more off putting to members than any brusque content that @Gary or anyone else might make.

 

[Gary]

And @Gary play nice please, you have already taken your gloves off so lets just leave it at that.

Hahaha... no worries. point taken.


I honestly can't believe some folk take this sort of stuff so seriously.
But C'est la vie.

 

[OldGoatMTB]

Assuming a dropper come on the bike...

My preferred pedals: Time ATACs.
Grips: Ergon.
A comfy saddle if needed.

After that is seems like anything needed for the extended rides you'll be taking like a few tools, tire repair kit, including spare tube, wind/rain jacket, maybe a small battery bank in case your phone runs down, snacks, etc.

 

[Wheelie_King]

Grow up, because crap like this is more off putting to members than any brusque content that @Gary or anyone else might make.

It’s funny for now as a newer member, but I’m sure this will quickly be replaced with boredom. No need for this waste of screen space. I think there’s been more posts in this thread arguing than there has been genuine contribution. Thanks to those that have been civil and constructive ?

 

[Wheelie_King]

snacks, etc.

Best advice so far!!

 

[Cabby.]

Just had a quick read of page 4 only, personally thought it was all very entertaining, can we have some more please.