Fulgur Mula, 20KG Full Fat ebike

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Interesting bike I saw today at Berkshire Cycles. By Fulgur, an Italian brand:


20KG listed weight
• Full Fat 90Nm motor by Polini
- 160mm @extremeshox ERA Fork
- 160mm rear travel with @extremeshox Storia Coil V3
- Modular internal battery 504Wh and you can add another 125Wh internal extender!
- Additional 250Wh or 380wh external range extender option
- Enduro Geo, 64 degree head angle
Mullet
- Full carbon
- £6800
- Competed in EWS-E in 2021
- user serviceable motor

Love the modular battery concept to save weight.

 

[apac]

Modular internal batteries.... what a great idea.

 

[Bomble]

Will you get to test it Rob?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Will you get to test it Rob?

Yes

 

[Mikerb]

It will be interesting to see how that Polini motor performs. Polini famous for well engineered performance components for bikes..mostly scooters and MX.

 

[Zimmerframe]

It's quite an old motor now, but it doesn't mean they didn't get thing right straight out of the gate. Just hasn't had that much uptake for whatever multitude of complex reasons when making these decissions.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Polini apparently also supply service parts to end users and have manuals and diagrams on how to fix your motor should you have an issue.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I think the whole motor is user serviceable ? Maybe the only one to that extent ? @Bearing Man ???

On paper it reads as the perfect motor. As manufactures they seem passionate and professional. I wonder why it's never taken off, supply issues, contract issues, battery comparability ? The Italian relaxed view to you want it or not I don't care ?

Will be interesting to see what you think, I don't recall you ever trying a Polini ?

In fairness, now that Shimano have gone full down from the top globally, rather than just the smaller markets, "make the numbers look better than they are or I won't get my bonus" - with deny warranty claims for any reason possible, they also supply very simple documentation for repair of any motor or battery issue - even to the extent of removing battery health from dealer software :

Example of Standard Shimano "very simple" solution documentation :

 

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[dobbyhasfriends]

Yes

Looking forward to that review.
User serviceable motor!!! Sweet.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Looking forward to that review.
User serviceable motor!!! Sweet.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

I think the whole motor is user serviceable ? Maybe the only one to that extent ? @Bearing Man ???

On paper it reads as the perfect motor. As manufactures they seem passionate and professional. I wonder why it's never taken off, supply issues, contract issues, battery comparability ? The Italian relaxed view to you want it or not I don't care ?

Will be interesting to see what you think, I don't recall you ever trying a Polini ?

In fairness, now that Shimano have gone full down from the top globally, rather than just the smaller markets, "make the numbers look better than they are or I won't get my bonus" - with deny warranty claims for any reason possible, they also supply very simple documentation for repair of any motor or battery issue - even to the extent of removing battery health from dealer software :

Example of Standard Shimano "very simple" solution documentation :

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And this is why every time a new bike comes out equipped with a Shimano motor, somewhere, a puppy dies.

I would have bought the megawatt if it had been Bosch, I was gutted when it was a Shimano motor.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

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Jeremy Clarkson service and repair kit.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

And this is why every time a new bike comes out equipped with a Shimano motor, somewhere, a puppy dies.

I would have bought the megawatt if it had been Bosch, I was gutted when it was a Shimano motor.

Bosch are not taking on any new bike brands at all at the moment :-( And if and when they do the MOQ’s are far higher than Shimano. So I think that we will continue to see a load more Shimano based EP8 bikes launch.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

Bosch are not taking on any new bike brands at all at the moment :-( And if and when they do the MOQ’s are far higher than Shimano. So I think that we will continue to see a load more Shimano based EP8 bikes launch.

That explains a lot.. shame.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Bosch are not taking on any new bike brands at all at the moment :-( And if and when they do the MOQ’s are far higher than Shimano. So I think that we will continue to see a load more Shimano based EP8 bikes launch.

But they took on Pole..

 

[Peaky Rider]

That bike seems to tick every box for me. Whatever you do Rob, don't give it a rave review otherwise you'll make me regret buying the Rail you convinced me to buy.

 

[jbrown15]

Bosch are not taking on any new bike brands at all at the moment :-( And if and when they do the MOQ’s are far higher than Shimano. So I think that we will continue to see a load more Shimano based EP8 bikes launch.

strange, as someone else posted I wonder how Pole has managed to convince Bosch to allow them to use their motors.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

strange, as someone else posted I wonder how Pole has managed to convince Bosch to allow them to use their motors.

Not sure. I’ll ask them.

 

[Bearing Man]

I think the whole motor is user serviceable ? Maybe the only one to that extent ? @Bearing Man ???

Bafang are user serviceable..ish, parts are available and I guess if you have a big enough hammer, you can achieve anything!

 

[maynard]

Name sounds like an Italian swear word.
" It's a fulgar mula puta "

 

[Doomanic]

20KG listed weight

Not convinced about this…

I was in Berkshire Cycles at the weekend (don’t ask… ) and had a feel of it. It felt considerably heavier than my KSL.

 

[apac]

Not convinced about this…

I was in Berkshire Cycles at the weekend (don’t ask… ) and had a feel of it. It felt considerably heavier than my KSL.

Any idea if it had the 504 or 629wh pack inside? I just can't see how it could be 20kg with a full fat motor and batt pack as well as big suspension

 

[Doomanic]

I can't be sure, but Chris was going on about the big battery.

 

[Pdoz]

Imagine getting drunk then wandering around the carpark looking for your vulgar mule .

 

[Bearing Man]

Cow shit! A great reason to keep your mudguards on in the summer if riding in the forest

 

[cappuccino34]

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Interesting bike I saw today at Berkshire Cycles. By Fulgur, an Italian brand:


20KG listed weight
• Full Fat 90Nm motor by Polini
- 160mm @extremeshox ERA Fork
- 160mm rear travel with @extremeshox Storia Coil V3
- Modular internal battery 504Wh and you can add another 125Wh internal extender!
- Additional 250Wh or 380wh external range extender option
- Enduro Geo, 64 degree head angle
Mullet
- Full carbon
- £6800
- Competed in EWS-E in 2021
- user serviceable motor

Love the modular battery concept to save weight.

I popped (!) down to try this bike on Saturday and was really impressed with it.

Unfortunately the ride was short and of limited scope, but what little I did do it felt really good, the motor and suspension in particular. Although the 'testing' of the latter was no more than pumps and road furniture, it felt virtually free of stiction, and like it would just soak up the ripples with ease.

I'm not sure that this specific bike, with alloy cranks, bars and rims would be as light as 20kg (I'm only going on the basis of 'feel' when lifting it), however it was definitely considerably lighter than my current bike (Giant Trance E+0) and I expect that with some carbon goodies it would be amongst the lightest of the full-fat bikes for sure.

Anyway, the main reason for me posting, was that I forgot/didn't think to see how much drag the motor had when turned off, so if you get the opportunity to do that when you test it please Rob and let us know that would be great.


I also have to say, Chris at Berkshire Cycles could not have been more honest and helpful, taking so much time out of his day to talk with me about more than just the bike, and was not pushy in any way. A refreshing thing these days. Very impressed.

 

[cappuccino34]

I just thought I'd post an update...

I bought one of these and have been riding it for a couple of months now.
I wanted to get enough riding in to form an opinion before expressing it.

Anyway, I love it. The suspension in particular is incredible. I thought the Fox Factory stuff on my Giant was good but this is on another level.

I've made some changes to suit my preferences:-

I've fitted OneUp bars, because they're great.
Carbon wheels because I prefer them. I went for the XD driver and 1299 cassette but the offset is different so I need to fit a different hanger.
I've fitted CushCores. Because it's a No Brainer.
Medium length mud guards.
I wasn't keen on the cable routing into the chainstays and I already had a SRAM AXS derailleur from another bike so I've fitted that, but unfortunately the hanger isn't perfect for it (along with the hub/cassette change) so that's on my 'to-do' list.

Mine is a Medium and with all the above fitted, along with my lights (Hope R8+ with 6-cell battery) it's just under 23kg.
If I was to fit Fox 34s and a DPS shock, take out the cores and remove the lights it would probably be around 20kg, but it wouldn't be nearly as good a machine for being that bit lighter, so I'm perfectly happy to carry the little extra weight.

There are some little tweaks and changes that both myself and Chris at Berkshire cycles have been talking about and agree on, mainly to do with the extender battery, but overall the bike is fantastic.

The display/app/motor software is by far the best I've ever seen.
There are five 'groups' of settings, each with five levels. You can adjust the levels within a group as you ride, but to change groups you need to go into the menu, for which you have to be stationary. Three groups are factory configured and fixed, two groups are fully customisable. You can adjust pretty much everything about how power is delivered; how much torque is required from the rider to give assistance, and how much assistance you get. 'Run-on' is also adjustable in the custom settings.

 

[Jackware]

Thanks for the update, is the 23kg with just the 504wh battery?

 

[cappuccino34]

Thanks for the update, is the 23kg with just the 504wh battery?

Yes but weighs next to nowt, maybe 300g or something because it doesn't have a hard case.