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Would make a good video!... would love to hear the answer to this as well!
Ace
Would make a good video!... would love to hear the answer to this as well!
Ace
Would make a good video!
Come on man. An athletic man puts out the same power as the SL motor. If you put it in zimmerframes perspective it’s like being on a tandem bike with a fit man pumping away behind you. That’s plenty of power and he’s got more longevity than the higher power ones. However with medium power in the summer on a carbon bike it overheats. And I’m salty about that.
I am gonna put my guess that it was an Ibis he was testing? They are gonna have to get into the EMTB game sooner or later. When they do, I’d bet it would be in the SL category and not FF (and it will probably be manufactured in California, just like the Exie cross country bike). We will see. I would love an Ibis EMTB to go with my Mojo.
I’ve already paid for a Fuel EXe that will be at my dealer in about a week. Based on Rob’s review of the Fazua Ride 60 and every bit of other research I’ve done, I think the Trek with the TQ motor was the right choice. I’ll take a 50 nm motor with a little smaller battery and a silent motor over the 60 nm Fazua. I think the Trek looks less like an EMTB than either the Pivot or the Transition (although these two hardly look like an EMTB also), which is also something I wanted. There are too many places in the US that still don’t allow EMTB. I will not hesitate to ride that Trek on any trail in the US, including Moab and Sedona.
I am also interested to hear Rob’s thought on the TQ vs. the Fazua Ride 60.
...I agree that the appeal of the Trek, Pivot, or Transition is that they don't look like an E Bike!... when we riding Sedona?!?!
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I am down. I’d have to ride my Ibis Mojo or wife’s Turbo Levo SL until my Trek shows up. Trek will be here in a week, but then they need to strip that 9.5 down to the frame and build it per my specs. I’ve already ordered all the parts and they should also be here next week.
I live in Mesa, only a couple hours from Sedona, where are you at?
Gerrit
Actually no, they have one with an EP8, the Apocalypse
Forbidden !
TQ v Fazua v EP8RS v that 35Nm SL motor (forget the name!), any others ?
Future is looking bright
Purple only. Extra wide saddle so Danny Hart can sit down.Atherton branch out ?
Or a total newcomer ? Rob Warner Bikes ? Comes with a complete tool hit (a hammer) and a manual which will be reviewed as "The most riveting and Adrenalin filled read in decades. With more expletives than a football match - not for the faint hearted"
Gordon, if you haven't already upgraded, I probably wouldn't. I have both motors and yes there is a slight difference but not really that noticeable for the pound notes its going to cost you. Spend you money on another battery perhaps instead.I'm upgrading my eZesty to a ride 50 but I'll still be able to use the Evation motor, so I can compare them directly.
Not wanting to dampen your enthusiasm but is that really a fair test. Anybody can set max power, anybody can set max response, but does that give a true overall representation of what the motor is really like when riding the trails ?I rode it in Turbo and maxxed out the assistance to kick in at minimum pedal effort. Here is the Fazua Ride 60 Range and early thoughts.
Of course its a test, why wouldnt it be?! I've also ridden the bike many times in all the various modes over the past few weeks, but this was a power / range test, for my comparisons vs similar bikes in the same trails / terrain.Not wanting to dampen your enthusiasm but is that really a fair test. Anybody can set max power, anybody can set max response, but does that give a true overall representation of what the motor is really like when riding the trails ?
Like he said "early thoughts". It's actually quite a good test because it gives you an idea of whats the minimum you can expect with a baseline of KM/meters climbed.Not wanting to dampen your enthusiasm but is that really a fair test. Anybody can set max power, anybody can set max response, but does that give a true overall representation of what the motor is really like when riding the trails ?
He did say he did the test just in Turbo ??Fair enough but could you clarify things a bit at the beginning that you are going to rag the motor at full power
Local Trek store has a 2021 Domane LT+ with the Fazua 50 motor/battery system. There is a motor spec plate on the rear chain stay that indicates Power: 250W, Peak Power: 400W, Max Torque: 60Nm. These peak numbers seem similar to the new Fazua 60 system....
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Maybe, but it does annoy me sometimes when biking journos pop up with the latest release motor and then do a test giving initial thoughts on the motor when infact all they have done is a battery test.Like he said "early thoughts". It's actually quite a good test because it gives you an idea of whats the minimum you can expect with a baseline of KM/meters climbed.
Like it or not, it is an influential factor for many - even more so with a "lightweight" where you have a smaller battery than normal.do a test giving initial thoughts on the motor when infact all they have done is a battery test.
That motor would be "ball park" similar performance ? The range on max power would depend on your battery ?In my view that battery test giving Km/metres is probably one of the least informative when I could go out and buy a TSDZ2 engine at £ 250.00 and give you almost identical figures over a 1000 metre test ride.
I didnt state anywhere that its an in depth long term test... But feedback notedMaybe, but it does annoy me sometimes when biking journos pop up with the latest release motor and then do a test giving initial thoughts on the motor when infact all they have done is a battery test.
In my view that battery test giving Km/metres is probably one of the least informative when I could go out and buy a TSDZ2 engine at £ 250.00 and give you almost identical figures over a 1000 metre test ride.
Here is the Fazua Ride 60 Range and early thoughts.
I think you should do a range test between the John Doe, Carbon Rise, Alloy Rise, Pivot SL, Trek Fuel, Levo SL, Kenevo SL, Syrion (it would be in it's element with no electronics required) - with the power off.The most common question on any motor test is Range, so I thought this early thoughts thread may be of some use / info
Water ?! When did you suddenly become so caring and compassionate ?All in the same day!!! No food but he can have water.
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