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EP8-RS Derestricting Torque and Boost - eMax

ep8-rs

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Please remember that the forum is normally used for discussion.

To declare everyone else's comments as "pointless debate" merely because they don't conform to your own views does not mean that they're not relevant.


Yes, someone else has also found a similar result to yourself, though one result doesn't confirm things, it could be subjective, different weather, different tyres the other bike riding slower for similar reasons.

Rather than playing some table tennis discussion based on "feeling" why not actually test the bike on the flat, with no wind, on the same day, where there are no trees or obstructions, in the same direction with a GPS device running to give actual speed. Make repeated runs to get averages using the different settings.
My apologies , that statement was not intended as a declaration towards others comments , but as to the debate of my experience by myself and the volley. But I can see how it could be read that way. Again , my apologies.

I do not have a GPS or I would take your suggestion to practice. Thus , only being able use the term experience.
I agree , one having similar results does not confirm nor deny things , I was simply grateful for being asked to re-read previous posts and was surprised to see it as I had missed it before. I was welcoming either result as I stated in the request post in hopes of a kind of vote system of personal experiences instead of continued volley. Looking at how this has all developed I am not sure that would really mean anything anymore. Just proof of my not attempting to mislead anyone at this juncture.

Thank you again for providing this forum.
 

ep8-rs

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For sure there is a difference if you will change the display speed adjustment value!
However, the only difference is the speed which is shown on the display, but as @Backflip already wrote, the real max. motor support speed of the bike does not change at all.
You even can change this display speed solely with your bike display – you don´t even need any smartphone or app!
Just enter the display menu and change the value and you will see that the motor support speed will not change at all:
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Agreed , speed is not my intent , it is the abrupt cutoff of assist that was affected for me in comparison to no change and or -5 with my particular setup on my bike.
 
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Tony4wd

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In the end , my goal was to share my findings and I have done that.
In any case, thanks for starting the thread which showed me how to increase my Rise peak motor power to 500w - very happy with that.
The bike also seems to keep up better with our bosch powered bike, though I certainly defer to those knowledgeable about the software stating that only the display speed changes.

Regarding the display speed, the motor previously cut out at 24.3 km/h and now cuts out at close to 27 km/h (more than 5%) ?
 

ep8-rs

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In any case, thanks for starting the thread which showed me how to increase my Rise peak motor power to 500w - very happy with that.
The bike also seems to keep up better with our bosch powered bike, though I certainly defer to those knowledgeable about the software stating that only the display speed changes.

Regarding the display speed, the motor previously cut out at 24.3 km/h and now cuts out at close to 27 km/h (more than 5%) ?
Thank you Tony 4wd. Your reply is very much appreciated and I am glad someone found this helpful.

Your display speed curiosity would best be approached by Backflips information as I clearly never looked into that aspect. I only sought and found the increase in power and utilization of some the possibilities of the EP8-RS motor.

Super happy you had similar results.
 

ep8-rs

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My apologies , that statement was not intended as a declaration towards others comments , but as to the debate of my experience by myself and the volley. But I can see how it could be read that way. Again , my apologies.

I do not have a GPS or I would take your suggestion to practice. Thus , only being able use the term experience.
I agree , one having similar results does not confirm nor deny things , I was simply grateful for being asked to re-read previous posts and was surprised to see it as I had missed it before. I was welcoming either result as I stated in the request post in hopes of a kind of vote system of personal experiences instead of continued volley. Looking at how this has all developed I am not sure that would really mean anything anymore. Just proof of my not attempting to mislead anyone at this juncture.

Thank you again for providing this forum.
So , this is just me standing behind the foundation my assertions toward authoritarians.

Petty as this may sound , the authoritarian stance the moderator with their sheriff's badge icon , for some reason got under my skin with their misrepresentation of my reply using the term pointlessness. As I apologized and stated my reasoning and or defense , I was hoping for a response from the moderator. I feel I have given it a reasonable amount of time for said response , and I even tried to directly contact the moderator only to find their account is not available for direct communications via their icon. Anyway , as I have not received a reply ( although this message would probably stoke a fire ) I feel this misrepresentation is all too standard in these days of elitist control over others. Yah , it's just a e-bike forum , and I doubt anyone really cares about this petty statement , but I'm still going to stand for what what I believe in. No one is above nor below any other one. Respect and decency for self and others flows in all directions , no exceptions.
One other showed they gained something from my wanting to help , so my goal was achieved and I'm happy with that.
So , if I get banned , so be it. I'm never posting here again anyway just as I feel it would be hypocritical , and a hypocrite I strive to never be. Ridiculously tiny in the big picture? Absolutely , but I have to be true to myself or it all is , well , pointless.
 

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I was hoping for a response from the moderator
Why ? We generally try not to post in the threads as it's a distraction to the primary discussion. If we do post, it's not to start a conversation as that would be a further distraction.

There was nothing to respond to ? Have you had a nice day ? Is the weather good ? Have you considered Pilates ?

You said you had no GPS device. You don't even have a smartphone ? There are lots of GPS apps which will display speed - you really want to have a conversation about this ? We're not here to tell you how to try and be more scientific rather than subjective.

for some reason got under my skin with their misrepresentation of my reply using the term pointlessness
Petty as this may sound , the authoritarian stance the moderator with their sheriff's badge icon
By misrepresentation, you mean directly quoting your own words ?

Maybe you can use this experience to help you understand how your words offended other members several times resulting in our response. You feel we misrepresented your words because of how we interpreted them. However this was the same for other members. In your initial reply you appeared to acknowledge this and understand how things can be miss communicated. Now you seem to have changed your mind and returned to your ideologue point of view.

As for the "authoritarian" stance of the moderator. We are obliged to enforce for forum rules and intercede when necessary. The tongue in cheek Sherriff badge - if that offends you what do you propose ? A gummy bear ?

if I get banned , so be it. I'm never posting here again anyway
Why would you be banned ? Your entitled to your views. Your welcome to post like anyone else.

Merry Xmas. The Mods.
 

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