Easy to remove battery on Rise Hydro?

[TKB]

How hard is it to remove the battery on the Rise Hydro? And can you charge the battery directly when removed?

I'm also partly asking because I need to get the weight under 20kg in order to put a H15 on my bike roof rack.

 

[mark.ai]

How hard is it to remove the battery on the Rise Hydro? And can you charge the battery directly when removed?

I'm also partly asking because I need to get the weight under 20kg in order to put a H15 on my bike roof rack.

You would need to remove the motor - so pretty hard.

I don’t know what connectors it actually has for external charging.

 

[TKB]

Yeah, I suspected that was needed. But still, how hard is it to drop the motor on this bike?

 

[TKB]

From browsing the web I understand that the H15 is about 21.5kg including pedals. Besides removing the battery, how to most easily reduce the weight to 20kg? To be able to have it on my Thule 598 roof rack?

 

[mark.ai]

I haven’t tried it yet myself, but here is one good description: Orbea Rise - Charging/Cabling Fault Finding - EMTB Forums

It sounds like you have to remove the chainring, which also means removing the crank. Although you could switch to using a spider instead of a one piece chainring.

 

[mark.ai]

From browsing the web I understand that the H15 is about 21.5kg including pedals. Besides removing the battery, how to most easily reduce the weight to 20kg? To be able to have it on my Thule 598 roof rack?

Removing the wheels should be enough if you can still attach it to the roof rack.

 

[mark.ai]

Maybe one wheel …

 

[mark.ai]

I just weighed the front wheel of my Rise M-ltd and it is 1.9kg (once I measured properly the second time)

 

[TKB]

My roof bike rack only works with the wheels on. Maybe the easiest is to buy a new bike rack. And the only one I found that can take more than 20kg is this one:

CHRONO SX

BIKE RACKS##Roof bike racks##

eu.menabocaraccessories.com

BTW, I don't have a tow hitch.

 

[Bigtuna00]

Yeah, I suspected that was needed. But still, how hard is it to drop the motor on this bike?

With the right tools I can do it in a few minutes but I would never want to do this every time I transport the bike, that's crazy.

BTW, I don't have a tow hitch.

So get one? They're not difficult to install, even if DIY.

 

[Cavi]

sorry even if you get it to 20kg I would not feel safe putting a ebike on the roof of any car....

 

[TKB]

Well, the Menabo rack I linked to previously is verified to 25kg, so it is safe but cumbersome, yes.

I'd love a tow hitch but bloody Audi wants 3000 euros to install it! Am trying to find a third-party solution.

 

[Murphius]

Removing the battery is a huge pain in the ass. Totally delete that from your mind as a potential solution. No way anyone would do that every time they transport their bike with their car.

I would personally just put the overweight bike on the roof rack you have and use your brain, ex. drive slower when appropriate (bumpy roads, high wind, etc).

 

[Swissrider]

Well, the Menabo rack I linked to previously is verified to 25kg, so it is safe but cumbersome, yes.

I'd love a tow hitch but bloody Audi wants 3000 euros to install it! Am trying to find a third-party solution.

I was quoted 2400 Swiss francs to have one fitted to my BMW. A one man garage did it for half that. Well worth it. I bought a Thule vélo space which can take up to 60k and I carry 2 ebikes. It’s very quick, convenient and secure and being behind the car has less effect on fuel consumption. I agree, I would not put an ebike on the roof - good chance of damaging yourself or the car!

 

[TKB]

Murphius, I agree, would most likely work. However, if something would happen when I'm using a too heavy bike on the rack I won't get any reimbursement from the insurance company...

 

[RickBullotta]

Just don't do it. It's not easy, and every single time you remove it and/or drop the motor you're risking damage to the wiring harness and connectors. It was NOT MEANT to be removed. One more time: don't do it.

 

[TKB]

Just don't do it. It's not easy, and every single time you remove it and/or drop the motor you're risking damage to the wiring harness and connectors. It was NOT MEANT to be removed. One more time: don't do it.

No worries, I won't

Haven't even bought the bike yet. I'm trying to figure out if I should go for the Rise H15 or the Levo alloy... and on the Levo it is simple to drop the battery.

 

[Swissrider]

It seems wrong to make a choice of bike based on how you are going to carry it on the car! Even with the battery removed, the Levo is still quite a weight to put on your roof and you still have all the disadvantages of carrying a bike on the roof (I can' think of any advantages). Ball hitch is the way to go. If you are going to keep your car for a while, and can get one fitted at a decent price (there are even companies that will come to your home to do it) I don't think you will regret it.

 

[TKB]

It seems wrong to make a choice of bike based on how you are going to carry it on the car! Even with the battery removed, the Levo is still quite a weight to put on your roof and you still have all the disadvantages of carrying a bike on the roof (I can' think of any advantages). Ball hitch is the way to go. If you are going to keep your car for a while, and can get one fitted at a decent price (there are even companies that will come to your home to do it) I don't think you will regret it.

Thanks for the input and I kind of agree, but not completely. It's much easier and cheaper to change one's bike than one's car!

And I'd wish it was that simple to get a hitch where I live, but it isn't. I'm located at 70 deg north and the skiing season is still on up here