Coil shock

[Craig64]

On one of the posts I said I was fine with the stock fox dps rear shock, that was in the middle of winter, so mud bike puddles ice and general crap, over the last few weeks it’s dried out a lot and I’m now pushing my whyte a lot harder.
ive found it’s fine for a few miles then just can’t cope probably just getting to hot.
The rear max is is suffering, the knobs are starting to lift of the carcas, so the tyre is doing to much of the shocks job. So went for it.

 

[Rahr85]

Be interested to see how this pans out. Despite the e180 v1 having a coil the general consensus was that the bike wasn't set up progressive enough for a coil to work well.

 

[Mr President]

Any update after the weekend? Very interested to find how it went after rattling my way round Afan today.

Is the progressive spring enough to keep things playful?

 

[Craig64]

Went out yesterday, 17 miles on Cannock Chase, this has changed the character of the bike,

Fox and Rockshox say as a rule of thumb your body weight in lbs is the starting point for the psi in the rear shock,

I’m 13 stone, 82.5 kgs or 182 lbs with shoes helmet and back pack,

When I bought the bike we set the static sag with 190 psi, trails dried out and I had to add air due to bottoming out, I ended up @ 240 psi, not good,

Yesterday I wussed it, played with the compression damping and the climb switch, put it back to factory and left the climb switch alone, the just rode it, the trails got busy and lost time, a lot,

Went back to cannock this morning early only a few out,

 

[Craig64]

A bit of an update, last weekend I went to the Lake District and had a morning at Whinlatter, I had a cube e full sus, not one of the top of the range a pretty low spec one rockshox 35 forks base rear shock and nx drive chain, it reminded me that I quite liked cubes high bb height, no peddle strikes, what I didn’t like was the steering angle, a 180 uphill turn on roots and slates with no forward momentum I hit a dead stop, on my Whyte I would just pop the front up and flick the tyre over to a different line, no issu.

2 weeks ago sorry did mean to put an update in, I was at Cannock Chase and managed to bottom out the rear shock, my bag, fluffed a drop , take of was rubbish all over the place stayed on but landed really hard, mostly on the back wheel, slammed the front down, not pretty or graceful,

went back to cannock this morning with a plan to push the rubber bump stop up the shock to check how much I’m using on each trail, unfortunately the nephew had an of, a few chunks out of his elbow. A bit of a hole just above his hip and nice graze on his new so best laid plans went sideways, I will try and do this just to get an idea of how much travel I’m using, just to note I hit the same drop this morning with no issues ?

 

[The Hodge]

I is slightly confused ..has the coil shock improved things or not godammit..? ?

 

[Singletrack Scene]

I went with the DVO JADE coil shock, it handles the aggressive leverage, and shaft speeds the Whyte frame generates - Also has the bladder damper, so no excessive overheating

 

[Whitby Chris]

I went with the DVO JADE coil shock, it handles the aggressive leverage, and shaft speeds the Whyte frame generates - Also has the bladder damper, so no excessive overheating

Is the the Jade or the Jade X ? I was looking at the Jade but wanted to see I could settle with the standard shock on the 160rs v2 but just feel like there is little life in it, maybe its me I don't know as I am not the greatest of riders etc

 

[Singletrack Scene]

Is the the Jade or the Jade X ? I was looking at the Jade but wanted to see I could settle with the standard shock on the 160rs v2 but just feel like there is little life in it, maybe its me I don't know as I am not the greatest of riders etc

I have the Jade

 

[Geetsrevoel]

On one of the posts I said I was fine with the stock fox dps rear shock, that was in the middle of winter, so mud bike puddles ice and general crap, over the last few weeks it’s dried out a lot and I’m now pushing my whyte a lot harder.
ive found it’s fine for a few miles then just can’t cope probably just getting to hot.
The rear max is is suffering, the knobs are starting to lift of the carcas, so the tyre is doing to much of the shocks job. So went for it.

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How you getting on with your Cane Creek Coil?

I have a E-160RS and my DPS air shock is near end of life and I'm looking at coils (Cane Creek or DVO Jade X).

I often ride pretty aggressively over chunky stuff but a little dubious on comments from others sating that Whyte EMTBS suspension design/frame is not so good for coils. The last thing i would like is to spend £600 on a decent coil setup for it blow in a couple of months.

 

[crazyknowledge]

The suspension is quite progressive , about 28% so ideal for coils, I have tried DVO and Ohlins both no issues whatsoever, both as good as each other but the DVO much better value at full retail price

 

[crazyknowledge]

TF tuned also recommend the Kitsuma so another option

 

[Geetsrevoel]

Ended up going with an EXT from J-Tech. I’m delighted with it as it has transformed the bike.

 

[crazyknowledge]

Would love to try an EXT, chatting to a chap on Saturday who had the ext fork and shock on a Druid and absolutely loves them, would take big save up for those though

 

[RsGaz]

Ended up going with an EXT from J-Tech. I’m delighted with it as it has transformed the bike.

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Transformed, in what way?

 

[Geetsrevoel]

Transformed, in what way?

Thee first things I noticed was a big difference in braking with the rear feeling glued to the ground. Not much skipping about.
In my opinion eMTBs are generally planted because of their weight anyway but now the bike is more planted, smooth and takes everything in its stride way better. I hit rock gardens and rough route sections with more pace, ease and pleasure now.
Also, before my DPS air shock was shot and lacking performance come the end of a long testing trail. The coil just keeps on giving. Overall it’s feels like it’s what the bike has been asking for and as a result it gives me much more confidence to hitting things quicker, smoother, with less fatigue at the end of the run too.