Coil on Decoy Elite

[Billyc]

Anyone put a coil on a Decoy Elite? If so which one and what was the outcome in terms of ride feel?

 

[leftside]

I just put a Push 11.6 on my Decoy CF Pro. Great upgrade. Now, how about that Fox 36 which I seem to have destroyed...

 

[Billyc]

I just put a Push 11.6 on my Decoy CF Pro. Great upgrade. Now, how about that Fox 36 which I seem to have destroyed...

Thanks man. I really like the Fox 38 on the Decoy, it just ploughs over stuff!!

 

[leftside]

Thanks man. I really like the Fox 38 on the Decoy, it just ploughs over stuff!!

I think that's where I'm heading. If I can find one...

 

[Josey Wales]

Ohlins TTX fits perfectly.
For the heavier rider, it's a must.

 

[leftside]

I’m 175 lbs, and I’ve now put a few rides on the bike with a coil and much prefer it.

 

[Sapientiea]

Pulled the trigger and also bought a Ohlins TTX M22 coil shock tuned by TFtuned. Will arrive next Wednesday.

p.s. that the UK just left the EU makes dealing with UK quite a bit complex especially returning goods for maintenance. If you are not carefull you will pay each time to customs

 

[stressballsteve]

I've put a Formula MOD on mine and I love it. So supple and supportive. Gives lots of pop when needed, but the main thing that improves the ride and control is the way the rear tracks the ground, just so planted.

 

[KenX]

Marzocchi Bomber coil for me, 3years on now, never go back to air, soooo much plusher! Also bought from TFTuned sent to me in France. Also fitted Vorsprung Smashpot coil fork conversion which is ace, only had a Yari to work with, so a big improvement!

 

[Gemini2k]

I've got a push on mine. Night and Day difference.

 

[Sapientiea]

Good to hear!
Tomorrow they deliver

 

[Sapientiea]

Yeah the Ohlins TTX is on the bike. First (flat ) ride yesterday. Might be wishful thinking but I could feel much more support, like it was not sagging so much. Cannot fully explain it yet, have to ride more. Increments of the dials are very noticeable. Just one click and you feel the difference. Unlike anything I have experienced so far. So much looking forward trowing it of a mountain now . Pic coming later

 

[GSuperstar]

Decoy Elite, couldn't ever imagine riding it without coil anymore

 

[CRFan1]

I have a Decoy MX Core 2 coming and I am very interested in a rear coil, especially the Ohlins. Is the proper size for this bike a 230mm x 65mm? I am 245 with gear and still also not sure what spring rate to get......I think a 550 pound spring would be ok.......

Any input would be appreciated!

 

[stressballsteve]

Check the TFTuned spring calculator. I'd say a 550 would be OK for you, but if you hit bike parks/large drops/cases etc., I'd go for maybe a 600-650.

 

[CRFan1]

Check the TFTuned spring calculator. I'd say a 550 would be OK for you, but if you hit bike parks/large drops/cases etc., I'd go for maybe a 600-650.

Thanks...the TFTuned spring calculator calls for 541 (so 550). I do like to jump and such but I would say I don't get big air or anything. 600 might be best though if I can find one....

 

[INI]

i have a coil on both my Decoy and Capra...for more DH riding its a must....

 

[Sapientiea]

Thanks...the TFTuned spring calculator calls for 541 (so 550). I do like to jump and such but I would say I don't get big air or anything. 600 might be best though if I can find one....

I'm also 245 with gear on. TF tuned advised a 600lbs spring. TFtuned and Ohlins online calculator said 571lbs spring. There is about 5 kg playroom. I can still get 30% sag when I sit without gear , water and such on the bike.

 

[CRFan1]

I'm also 245 with gear on. TF tuned advised a 600lbs spring. TFtuned and Ohlins online calculator said 571lbs spring. There is about 5 kg playroom. I can still get 30% sag when I sit without gear , water and such on the bike.

Thanks...that's good info.!

 

[Singletrackmind]

Decoy Elite, couldn't ever imagine riding it without coil anymore

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Have a Decoy Elite and want to upgrade to a coil shock as well. Thinking of going with the same model Push you are using. Not a big jumper or rock garden rider any more. How does it handle small bumps and rutted trails? Also been riding Michelin E-Wild's on my Elite which I really like. Noticed your tire combination. How do you like them? My Decoy is set up more as a dh rig so not worried about climbing characteristics. Any input would be appreciated!

 

[Singletrackmind]

Decoy Elite, couldn't ever imagine riding it without coil anymore

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You running a Shigura brake set-up with 220mm rotors?

 

[GSuperstar]

Have a Decoy Elite and want to upgrade to a coil shock as well. Thinking of going with the same model Push you are using. Not a big jumper or rock garden rider any more. How does it handle small bumps and rutted trails? Also been riding Michelin E-Wild's on my Elite which I really like. Noticed your tire combination. How do you like them? My Decoy is set up more as a dh rig so not worried about climbing characteristics. Any input would be appreciated!

The best way to describe it is like running on a mattress. I had a 2021 DHX2 prior and loved that shock, then got this and it's blown it out the water. However that could just be because it's perfectly set-up for the suspension curve etc of the Decoy.

It has 2 settings, I have one for full blown DH which I ride most, and one for trail riding. Both feel completely different but amazing on all scenarios. I rode BPW last week in the wet, mostly woods and the technicals and it just stuck to the ground, very confidence inspiring!

I never got along with the E-wilds, not sure I gave them enough time maybe as others seem to rate them high. I'm running Magic Mary upfront and Big Betty rear, definitely slower rolling than my Summer Setup (Assegai / Aggressor), but rode all of North Wales in wetttt conditions and they were awesome on everything. Grippy on climbs, and definitely good for the downs. I know some run this combo all year round so going to see how they feel when it dries up, as I really did like my Maxxis combo

No mine are full Shimano Saint. 220mm upfront and 200 rear

 

[Singletrackmind]

The best way to describe it is like running on a mattress. I had a 2021 DHX2 prior and loved that shock, then got this and it's blown it out the water. However that could just be because it's perfectly set-up for the suspension curve etc of the Decoy.

It has 2 settings, I have one for full blown DH which I ride most, and one for trail riding. Both feel completely different but amazing on all scenarios. I rode BPW last week in the wet, mostly woods and the technicals and it just stuck to the ground, very confidence inspiring!

I never got along with the E-wilds, not sure I gave them enough time maybe as others seem to rate them high. I'm running Magic Mary upfront and Big Betty rear, definitely slower rolling than my Summer Setup (Assegai / Aggressor), but rode all of North Wales in wetttt conditions and they were awesome on everything. Grippy on climbs, and definitely good for the downs. I know some run this combo all year round so going to see how they feel when it dries up, as I really did like my Maxxis combo

No mine are full Shimano Saint. 220mm upfront and 200 rear

Thanks for the feedback! Will go with coil shock and give the Magic Mary/Big Betty combo once my E-Wilds wear out. Please share feedback on how you like them when it dries up in your area.

 

[Jeffsy29]

Anyone put a coil on a Decoy Elite? If so which one and what was the outcome in terms of ride feel?

I have Decoy 29 Pro (not Elite) and converted from DPX2 to Bomber CR with Avalanche tune rear coil (650# spring). I could never get the DPX2 to feel right. At 330-335 psi just to get sag right, there was little left in terms of ride quality.

Even the bone-stock Bomber CR was a major improvement for me over DPX2 in every conceivable way other than "poppiness" (I'm heavy at 265+ lbs geared up).

Ava-tuned Coil has WAY more support throughout the range, stability under chatter, traction in the wet and reduced harshness. It's not as "poppy" as air if you're a serious pumper over everything, you might miss the liveliness of air. But that may just be my weight and damping required to accommodate a rider of my mass.

Adjustability is spot-on with the Avalanche tune. Their 'basline' settings are customized to your weight, bike and style. So you're really in the middle of adjustability compared to a stock product.

 

[Singletrackmind]

Just installed a Push ELEVENSIX coil shock and DSD Runt on Fox 38 Factory fork. Will provide feedback after I get a few rides in.

 

[Singletrackmind]

I've got a push on mine. Night and Day difference.

Have you made any changes to the factory settings after receiving from Push?

 

[Duece]

Have you made any changes to the factory settings after receiving from Push?

I slowed the rebound by one click but that was it. There are other settings for the Decoy on the
Push site that I thought I would try but it rides so well no need to. The important part is to be honest with your riding style when ordering the shock then it should be setup fine.

 

[leftside]

I slowed the rebound by one click but that was it. There are other settings for the Decoy on the
Push site that I thought I would try but it rides so well no need to. The important part is to be honest with your riding style when ordering the shock then it should be setup fine.

Same

 

[Singletrackmind]

So after getting some nice technical dh rides in along with some more All-Mountain & choppy rides, VERY happy with the ride quality and feel of my Decoy. Played around with various psi settings on the DSD RUNT I installed same time as Push ELEVENSIX coil and feel totally spoiled with how well the bike performs. The Runt is legit with the High & Low air chambers and it really compliments the rear coil shock. Been really liking my new Yeti 160e, but the confidence I feel and performance of the upgraded Decoy is hard to beat. So far, left the original Push setting that were based on the input I provided to them. Think I will leave the standard factory fork/shock on the Yeti since I use it more as a trail/all-mount rig. Hoping YT provides a bigger battery option on next gen Decoy but I don't forsee my duck leaving the stable for quite sometime. Appreciate all the feedback and comments frim fellow Decoy/coil shock rider's!