Braided hoses on Decoy

[Dr. Ergal]

Hi guys,


I'm about to define my whishlist for the incoming ebike
One of the bikes in list is the Decoy
I love it, a lot. With the exception of SRAM brakes (I've never been in love with those brakes), so my plan is to replace the entire system just once unboxed the bike
My first choice is the brand new Braking In.Ca.s. system. Despite the 2 piston caliper, this system is plenty of power, so that it won many EWS rounds
My question for Decoy owners is the following: do the hose hatches in the frame allow braided hoses terminal to pass through?
I'm afraid not. In this case, open, cut and clamp the hoses again becomes a difficult solution to do at home

Thanks

The terminals I'm referring at are these:

 

[Gemini2k]

The codes work very well these days. Probably better to spend the money on suspension upgrades like a 11-6 or something.

 

[Dr. Ergal]

Thanks for your very prompt aswer but, with no disrespect, it was not exactly the answer of my question
I don't doubt that Code work well
The fact is that I don't like 'em and their feeling
So I would like to replace them.

The brakes I'm eyeing have braided hoses.

That's why my question

 

[akuria]

You'll have to cut the hose and re-crimp the fittings as the holes in the frame won't fit that fitting.

 

[Dr. Ergal]

That's what I was afraid of.
Thanks for your feedback

 

[Dr. Ergal]

I have the proof from a contact of mine in FB
Hoses need to be crimped out of the frame but yes... they can be routed

 

[R120]

Interesting brakes, I never realised they made brakes for MTB, I had them on one of my Huskys a long time ago, if I recall it was just after they launched their wave discs, back then they where game changing.

Do they really offer enough power with the dual piston? Are they oversized compared to other brands?

 

[akuria]

Interesting brakes, I never realised they made brakes for MTB, I had them on one of my Huskys a long time ago, if I recall it was just after they launched their wave discs, back then they where game changing.

Do they really offer enough power with the dual piston? Are they oversized compared to other brands?

hope has been making MTB brakes since at least 2006. i had them on my old Iron Horse bike back then. they are good brakes.

 

[R120]

?These are not hope brakes, they are Braking brakes the OP is talking about, the picture with the hopes is just an example of braided lines installed on a YT

 

[akuria]

?These are not hope brakes, they are Braking brakes the OP is talking about, the picture with the hopes is just an example of braided lines installed on a YT

Ah. Thought you were talking about the ones in the pic. Lol

 

[Dr. Ergal]

Braking In.Ca.S. system is the "revamping" of an impresive system developed by Stefano Billet for DH application
In origin, the calipers were much more refined (CNC machined), but always 2 pistons.

The concept behind was to have less components and, above all, a good response from the retaining o-ring to have an effective drop back movement of the pistons (bigger o-rings may ensure a more important elastic response to recall the pistons back)
Braking entered the project to supply industrial support; once Billet came out, Braking was obliged to give away the stunning calipers (Billet patent) but kept the fantastic lever system, with a modular cartridge in it. The pump action may be set up by simply varying the internal cartridge (8,9 and 10mm) to increase the hydraulic force (and, in opposite, decreasing the lever stroke and its relevant calibration action); that's why the same system can be used for XC, Enduro or DH.

The braking action with the intermediate cartidge is very aggressive (with the 10mm cartridge it's just an ON/OFF switch ) so that it won many rounds of 2019 EWS tournament.
To give you an idea, it's much more powerful and aggressive than Hope (which is famous to be superprecise but not so powerful); nobody uses the 10mm cartirdge because the bit is super-aggressive.
And it can be bleeded "moto style" as well as Hope, and this is a great point to me

 

[YokoOno]

I had no problems installing Saints with non-braided hoses, and I'd be very surprised if a braided hose wouldn't fit. The hardest part is routing the hose, as the hoses don't fit with end fittings installed.

You'll want to remove the battery and pay close attention to routing the new brake line around the various electric connectors. It's not that hard but will obviously require a full brake bleed afterwards.

 

[rb.]

Saying a brake is good because it won an EWS race isn’t a good example. All the top pros that have a shot at winning do not get to choose which brakes then run, they will run whatever brand their team is sponsored by. With very few exceptions.

Look like cool brakes though. But at $650 USD it’s a little much.

 

[Dr. Ergal]

Saying a brake is good because it won an EWS race isn’t a good example

You're not wrong at all

 

[R120]

I would love to try these, but its a big punt at that price - however Braking have truly produced some amazing products in the MX world that live up to the hype.