Bosch Purion to Kiox Display, e160RS Anyone done the swap?

[Kezzo80]

Afternoon all,

I've only had my e160RS for a bit less than a week, but already the Purion display does irk me a bit with its location, bulkiness and basic nature.

It's the only let-down on the bike TBH, especially being a premium model, I'd have hoped for a better interface.

Has anyone attempted the swap to Kiox and if so how easy was it? I'm not very technically proficient (can just about manage discs and pads!).....just wondering if its worth the effort or do I learn to live with the display!?

Cheers

 

[Wilko58]

Afternoon all,

I've only had my e160RS for a bit less than a week, but already the Purion display does irk me a bit with its location, bulkiness and basic nature.

It's the only let-down on the bike TBH, especially being a premium model, I'd have hoped for a better interface.

Has anyone attempted the swap to Kiox and if so how easy was it? I'm not very technically proficient (can just about manage discs and pads!).....just wondering if its worth the effort or do I learn to live with the display!?

Cheers

Search on here and you will find numerous posts about it but check this one out, it includes a "How To" that I wrote. Kiox fitment. - EMTB Forums

 

[Kezzo80]

Search on here and you will find numerous posts about it but check this one out, it includes a "How To" that I wrote. Kiox fitment. - EMTB Forums

Oops.....noob trick there! Thanks for the link

 

[Wilko58]

Oops.....noob trick there! Thanks for the link

No problem

 

[EebStrider]

I've got the Kiox on my 160, but my dealer changed it before I got the bike, as the Purion is Pure crap, in comparison!

 

[Kezzo80]

I've got the Kiox on my 160, but my dealer changed it before I got the bike, as the Purion is Pure crap, in comparison!

Oversight on my part, although the bike was already built at the LBS and it was a speculative enquiry about what they had in stock.

It really is crap! The only thing that lets the bike down.

Put another 20k on it this afternoon, it’s just such a dream to ride

 

[The Hodge]

I really don't see what the problem is ..it does what it's supposed to .
I may consider changing if it becomes faulty ..but so far I havent had cause for complaint ..

 

[EebStrider]

I really don't see what the problem is ..it does what it's supposed to .
I may consider changing if it becomes faulty ..but so far I havent had cause for complaint ..

Once you get used to the Kiox, you wouldn’t have anything else! And having it centrally mounted is a much more natural place to have it.

 

[The Hodge]

Can't disagree ..and it does look good ..but as long as the Purion is working I can live with it ..

 

[Tribey]

Can't disagree ..and it does look good ..but as long as the Purion is working I can live with it ..

Same here, plus I have my phone for mapping atop the stem, so I'd have to find a new position for that too.

 

[PhilBaker]

If you like all your settings and multi customizable displays showing everything you'd want to know, then Kiox is a big step up.

If you just want simplicity then Purion is great (although annoyingly bright when riding at night!)...

 

[PhilBaker]

Good shout, I didn't play with the brightness as I switched to the Kiox (love my gadgets/settings customisable display).

 

[Giff]

I have an e160RS and got my lbs to change it soon after I got the bike.
My previous Cube had a Purion which completely failed after about 4 months. . Initially Bosch said it wasn’t a warranty issue as it had had water ingress.
Yes it had.....I live in the UK and ride in the rain!
My lbs spoke to Bosch and they agreed to replace it as it was obvious it had not been damaged.
So the Purion is only splashproof.
The Kiox is IPX7, waterproof and dustproof
The Kiox can be removed as an extra security
measure, or registered with Bosch to disable the motor without the specific registered unit.
Besides maps and routes an a clock etc.

I think it’s worth the upgrade.

 

[Mteam]

I have an e160RS and got my lbs to change it soon after I got the bike.
My previous Cube had a Purion which completely failed after about 4 months. . Initially Bosch said it wasn’t a warranty issue as it had had water ingress.
Yes it had.....I live in the UK and ride in the rain!
My lbs spoke to Bosch and they agreed to replace it as it was obvious it had not been damaged.
So the Purion is only splashproof.
The Kiox is IPX7, waterproof and dustproof
The Kiox can be removed as an extra security
measure, or registered with Bosch to disable the motor without the specific registered unit.
Besides maps and routes an a clock etc.

I think it’s worth the upgrade.

Don't be so certain about the waterproofness of the kiox. I have the kiox on my bike and it let water in through the USB port cover and failed. I think if the USB cover is securely closed then it meets its ip rating for water resistance, however it is very easy to not close that cover fully, or the cover falls open slightly, and knacker the kiox.

I have used insulation tape on my new kiox to ensure the USB cover stays securely closed.

 

[Giff]

Good point....it does have a disclaimer “ with usb plug installed”...in the spec.
I have also put a small lanyard on mine as I lost it the other week in mud and leaves and it is very well camouflaged

 

[EebStrider]

I’ve got my Kiox linked to my phone, so had a go with the nav the other day. Was very impressed at how it knew where all the paths in the woods were.

 

[Matthew87]

I, as you, didnt like the position of the Purion display. So I did a 3D printed mount to have the Purion above the stem.
I sell it for 30 euro including shipping within Europe.

Here's a thread about it:

3D printed Bosch Purion Centermount

Hi! I have 3D printed a Bosch Purion Centermount as I hate the look of the big Purion display next to the grips. I almost never switch between modes when I ride, so no need for me to have the display close to the grips. Also, this saves the display from damage when you flip the bike over. I...

www.emtbforums.com

Cheers!

 

[Giff]

Is it a bit tricky to change power modes?

 

[Tribey]

I like the look of it, good job.

I do change mode quite a bit when riding, and flick through the distance/range displays, so it's not for me.

 

[gogsie]

I fitted the Kiox myself. Easy 1hr job with no reprogramming involved. The mount i use is from ebike prints and works very well. I have had a big crash where i broke the trigger switch but it was an easy fix, had i been using the purion it would have been destroyed i'm sure.
I love the extra displays and the connectivity with your phone to record rides and then upload to strava etc.

 

[Tribey]

Gogsie, I take it you feed the Kiox cable down through the frame to the motor. Does it go through the frame grommet OK?

 

[Wilko58]

Gogsie, I take it you feed the Kiox cable down through the frame to the motor. Does it go through the frame grommet OK?

Open this link and in the posts you will find a "How to.." that I wrote for the upgrade. Kiox fitment. - EMTB Forums
The grommet is probably the hardest part and I ended up replacing mine (they are sometimes cut in the middle by the bike assembler and split when trying to get the Purion connector out).

 

[gogsie]

Gogsie, I take it you feed the Kiox cable down through the frame to the motor. Does it go through the frame grommet OK?

Yes it does, just follows the purion cable route, It does go through the grommet, lots of lube and patience and its no problem.

 

[EebStrider]

I fitted the Kiox myself. Easy 1hr job with no reprogramming involved. The mount i use is from ebike prints and works very well. I have had a big crash where i broke the trigger switch but it was an easy fix, had i been using the purion it would have been destroyed i'm sure.
I love the extra displays and the connectivity with your phone to record rides and then upload to strava etc.

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Looks good, but why not mount the display where the centre cap is, and move the controller up out of harms way?

 

[gogsie]

Looks good, but why not mount the display where the centre cap is, and move the controller up out of harms way?

Because then the display would then be in the firing line when i crash and i don't fancy it pounding into my chest if i go over the bars, the display is £??? to replace the controller is £50.

 

[gogsie]

I tend to ride very technical rocky terrain so it hurts when a 25kg bike lands on top of you!.

 

[Wilko58]

@Tribey I'm not in as much danger as @gogsie so currently have mine mounted on the stem but going to fit the Cube handlebar mount soon. Unless you have the display screwed to the mount it shouldn't get damaged as it is designed to breakaway in a crash and technically the only part that would break if would be the mount itself. To prevent accidental loss of the display use the tethering hole on the display to tether it to your bike with a lanyard.

 

[EebStrider]

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I tend to ride very technical rocky terrain so it hurts when a 25kg bike lands on top of you!.

Fair enough! What skid plate is that?

 

[gogsie]

Fair enough! What skid plate is that?

A lad on the Whyte ebike riders Facebook page makes them.

 

[EebStrider]

A lad on the Whyte ebike riders Facebook page makes them.

Ah, I’m not on Facebook. Can you stick his phone number on here pls?