22 Gen 3 Levo - The cleaned posts.

[Coolcmsc]

S Works pricing always inflated, so no surprise there really.

Not if you buy an older version from somebody ?

 

[Coolcmsc]

Rode the Sworks two weeks ago in Pacifica and I am digging the mullet and geometry. In trails called Two Pines and Amanita where I rode the 2022 Levo back to back with my 2021 Levo, the new Levo is just easier to turn and maneuver on those really tight switchbacks. The steeper seat tube able and longer front-center also put me on a middle of the bike which contributed to a more balanced position.

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What about that unsettling ‘tippy forward’ feeling just as you drop into something steep in the Gen 2 frame: still there in the Gen 3? I predict it will be... let us know ?

 

[Bencab]

What about that unsettling ‘tippy forward’ feeling just as you drop into something steep in the Gen 2 frame: still there in the Gen 3? I predict it will be... let us know ?

Do not have that feeling on my Gen 2 and did not have that feeling as well on Gen 3.

 

[tranqui_yanqui]

What about that unsettling ‘tippy forward’ feeling just as you drop into something steep in the Gen 2 frame: still there in the Gen 3? I predict it will be... let us know ?

What do you mean by 'tippy forward"? This bike is slacker, which should allow you to keep your weight back.

 

[drm31078]

Yup, I confirm I can also see 2.2 motors on 2021 Levos on local Spesh site ...

Can you take a snapshot of where you are seeing this? I am waiting on a full replacement 2021 Levo comp...hope to get the updated motor!

 

[Al Boneta]

@Al Boneta said no.

So who knows...

Someone asked this question during the webinar I was invited to and they said no.

 

[Al Boneta]

initially I did not see much difference, after watching Rob's review I realize that I am wrong to a point. There are some good changes however not enough for me to sell my 1 year old Levo and add another 10000 to get one of those. Additionally if Specialized is watching, they need to start futureproofing these bikes. With this investment they need to last. And I am not saying 2 to 4 years, these need to be a 10 year bike. My current worry are batteries. Seems it is almost impossible to get a Gen 1 battery right now. This means that someone that bought a 2018 bike might have a dead 10000 bike after 3 years solely because they can no longer find a battery. Not to mention the resale will die if replacement batteries cannot be had.

A bike that lasts ten years? Ah fuck no

 

[Thegenerik1]

Rode the Sworks two weeks ago in Pacifica and I am digging the mullet and geometry. In trails called Two Pines and Amanita where I rode the 2022 Levo back to back with my 2021 Levo, the new Levo is just easier to turn and maneuver on those really tight switchbacks. The steeper seat tube able and longer front-center also put me on a middle of the bike which contributed to a more balanced position.

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My local spot! Are you from this area ride Pacifica often?

 

[h.grenade]

This bike looks sick! I wish that I had all those adjustments for sure. Great review @Rob Rides EMTB - very detailed and your filming and editing are top notch. Man you make that bike look better than Specialized does! I'm curious to see where the alu prices will end up. Probably pretty close to current + covid tax.

The new changes make me even more excited about whats in store for the next kenevo.

 

[Thegenerik1]

I'm on those trails pretty much daily on my 2019 Expert. I can totally see it being better on Two Pines. Those switchbacks are so tight!

Care to show me around sometime? Ridden Pacifica twice and still trying to figure some good loops. I live in San Bruno and recently got a 2021 Levo Comp.

 

[Kave]

No the frames totally new, and the motors had some changes too. Its a whole new bike

The engine is exactly the same according to ribs yt video.

 

[lumpy]

Care to show me around sometime? Ridden Pacifica twice and still trying to figure some good loops. I live in San Bruno and recently got a 2021 Levo Comp.

Sure, but when COVID dies down. Just hit Trailforks or Strava and you'll find most all except the hidden ones

 

[Beezerk]

A mate texted me about the prices last night, I though the was taking the pash
Specialized must be on crack, they've instantly alienated lots of potential customers with their crazy pricing policy.
Imagine the bike you can buy vs just the Levo frame alone, madness a tell thi

 

[Pivot]

It’s a ‘halo model’.
I am sure that we will see a few of those grazing on a concrete in front of coffee shops in Sandbanks

 

[salko]

Can you take a snapshot of where you are seeing this? I am waiting on a full replacement 2021 Levo comp...hope to get the updated motor!

Take a look on UK Specialized site, under 2021 Levo Comp specs of the motor says this:

 

[Mcharza]

Before someone ask, here is a tech list of rear shock
2021 Series FLOAT X2

Part number: 979-63-010
Short ID: D9MP
Description: 2021, FLOAT X2, F-S, K, 2pos-Adj, Specialized, Levo F1, 210, 55, CL002, JCR010, Rezi CM, SBC S08 Dream Silver Satin/SBC W03 Metallic White, Neutral Logo, N/M

 

[R120]

The engine is exactly the same according to ribs yt video.

Has new wider belt and waterproofing differences.

 

[Zimmerframe]

OK .. so it's expensive .. as you'd expect. If you want a Golf GTi buy a Golf GTi. If you want a Lamborghini, buy a Lamborghini. Don't embarrass yourself at the Lamborghini dealership telling them you can get a Skoda for a lot less money and some of the parts are the same.

The geometry look good, the specs look great out of the box.

But I guess the big question everyone's too afraid to ask ... what's walkmode like ?

 

[Denpot29]

Awesome bike but Mad mad prices, MTB’ing is literally losing the plot in terms of pricing for parts/bikes.

 

[Rosemount]

Interesting to see in Ebike-Mtb’s bike of the year test the new Levo doesn’t come out on top, they give the Merida E160 the top gong, with the older Levo having won for the 3 years previously.

they rate the new Levo but say the improved downhill performance has been at the expense of some all round ability (Which actually makes the bike a bit more appealing to me ?)

the test is a good read, 25 bikes in it and some refreshingly upfront opinions on the bikes tested.

you can download it for free

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I thought on 1st impression ah they have moved the motor to shorten the chain stays .
I will be interested to hear how it likes tech climbs ?

Edit ; Just read Knuts`s review . He says its a good climber .

 

[Zimmerframe]

What about that unsettling ‘tippy forward’ feeling just as you drop into something steep in the Gen 2 frame: still there in the Gen 3? I predict it will be... let us know ?

There's a little secret many EMTBers don't know about. On the left handlebar there's a little lever you can push with your thumb. A lot of people try this when they're standing next to the bike and nothing happens so they presume it does nothing.

It's a bit like BMW drivers with indicator stalks, some owners catch them accidentally and weird things happen that they don't understand. Fortunately for BMW drivers this is normally automatically rectified by the car next time they come to a corner and the weird flashing lights and annoying rhythmic clicking sounds stop.

For EMTBers it's normally rectified the next time they catch it accidentally, which results in being punched in the nether regions and due to the pain, they have no recollection of what happened.

 

[MrSimmo]

Before someone ask, here is a tech list of rear shock
2021 Series FLOAT X2

Part number: 979-63-010
Short ID: D9MP
Description: 2021, FLOAT X2, F-S, K, 2pos-Adj, Specialized, Levo F1, 210, 55, CL002, JCR010, Rezi CM, SBC S08 Dream Silver Satin/SBC W03 Metallic White, Neutral Logo, N/M

nice one

? A lot of people on here dont read through threads or search though, no idea why. tenner says it’ll get asked in the same thread later on ?

 

[Stompweaver]

OK .. so it's expensive .. as you'd expect. If you want a Golf GTi buy a Golf GTi. If you want a Lamborghini, buy a Lamborghini. Don't embarrass yourself at the Lamborghini dealership telling them you can get a Skoda for a lot less money and some of the parts are the same.

The geometry look good, the specs look great out of the box.

But I guess the big question everyone's too afraid to ask ... what's walkmode like ?

That is an absolutely perfect analogy! Zim Zimmer.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I thought on 1st impression ah they have moved the motor to shorten the chain stays .
I will be interested to hear how it likes tech climbs ?

Did you watch the Video I posted, I wouldn't call it technical but Matt Lombardi climbs like a goat on there.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCODabtKtk2ZY_OBx6w6uORQ

 

[#lazy]

I know these last years have been a bit of a blur however this new Levo is a 2021 so why are people calling it a 22 ? It’s march 21 for gods sake

 

[Zimmerframe]

It’s march

What ? When the hell did that happen ? I must have been working on it being a super leap year.

 

[#lazy]

What ? When the hell did that happen ? I must have been working on it being a super leap year.

Not the answer I was looking for

 

[Zimmerframe]

But you cant just talk about a bike without mentioning its price - so not wishing to invoke the wrath of zimmer - but it is a little (understatement!) on the punchy side pricewise (at least at rrp) compared to very very similar bikes from other brands.

I don't disagree that it's expensive. It is expensive. If you don't think it's expensive you're a very lucky person !

But at the same time it's a product, from a line of products. It's the top of the line from Specialized - you expect to pay a premium.

It's also a choice. I'm sure most of us spend money upgrading parts on our bikes expecting it will make the bike better and us ride smoother/faster. The reality is that for most of us, it's us, not the bike which needs upgrading.

These have all the bits you could ever dream of already bolted on. They're new, they're shiny, if money was no object you'd buy one. We all like to buy nice things. 99% of the people who buy them will maybe go 1% faster. But who cares, they've bought something they wanted and they're happy.

I just don't understand why anyone complains about the price ?

It's like having a weird mental conversation in your head.

That bikes too expensive.
So buy a different bike.
But I want that bike and it's too expensive.
Just buy the cheaper one ?
But this one is better.
Maybe that's why it's more expensive ?

Bike prices are all crazy unless you're in the supermarket. A large part of that is component cost - but again, it's an optional lifestyle decision isn't it ?

These are flagship bikes. Some people will want that and will pay for it. Some people won't and they'll buy something else.

Years ago Specialized made a sub brand of cheaper bikes .. all that did was piss everyone off .. Sometimes you just can't win.

I'm sure the run of the mill mainsteam aluminium bikes will be a huge hit. They'll probably be more expensive than a lot of the competition, but again, it's a choice you make. So why complain about it ?

 

[MrSimmo]

I wonder if the rear triangle would fit on a 2020 Levo...

 

[etoni]

Here is one in the real world. The 2020 is mine and my buddy pick up a 2022 today.

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and hi payed 14000 euro?? wow!