2025 ZF Bike Eco System - New Motor!

[thevids]

Some more info here:
You can choose subtitles from settings, and then go into subtitles again and choose automatic translation if you don't understand German.
But what I wonder is if the Raymon Tarok is a good hard hitting enduro-bike? Would like to know if it is worth waiting for or if I should go for some other bike that is on sale right now?
Has anyone found any reviews of the bike itself?

 

[Mikerb]

some impressive details for that motor. Sounds like a bit of fine tuning is required but thats just software. Depending what major brand adopts the motor it could well be a Bosch competitor.

 

[TCFlowClyde]

Some more info here:
You can choose subtitles from settings, and then go into subtitles again and choose automatic translation if you don't understand German.
But what I wonder is if the Raymon Tarok is a good hard hitting enduro-bike? Would like to know if it is worth waiting for or if I should go for some other bike that is on sale right now?
Has anyone found any reviews of the bike itself?

I put out a similar Raymon Tarok review inquiry in January....nothing yet. Maybe German winter prohibits reviews and will be seen in late Spring?

But the Aussie YTers like Sam's Bikes should be available weather-wise, so if he gets a Tarok....well Sammy, did you get one yet?

 

[G-Sport]

For me, compactness really isn't super important, yet this seems to be their top priority. Unfortunately harmonic drives etc like this (and the TQ) are not super efficient, hence all the talk about heat dissipation.
Efficiency is super important (until we get lighter batteries). So hard to get excited about this.

 

[TCFlowClyde]

For me, compactness really isn't super important, yet this seems to be their top priority. Unfortunately harmonic drives etc like this (and the TQ) are not super efficient, hence all the talk about heat dissipation.
Efficiency is super important (until we get lighter batteries). So hard to get excited about this.

On batteries...the solid state version when finally brought to a commercial scale should offer much lighter weights for the same capacities.... probably will not be super cheap at the out set at least.

Compact design of the ZF-90 gives it the opportunity to develop a compact MGU around it. They make auto gearboxes, so I'm hoping a nice compact 8-spd can be developed with their driveunit for overall full power, low profile design?

The HP-120 Nm is out there on an early Bulls bike (I think). But I wonder if overheating was ever an issue or just the 120 Nm wasn't really fashionable.

Ultimately, we'll have to see how the Tarok holds up to heat dissipation over time. We just need to actually finally see it on the trail.