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Thank you for your quick answers! I really appreciate it!

Do you notice the EP8 rattle noise too? Do you know if Shimano has improved the new delivered motors to fix that noise?

Easy. I rode a Turbo Levo SL and for me is to noisy to enjoy cycling experience. So if EP8 is louder thant that, I will wait until motor is quieter (as Brose for example).

Thanks for the info! Would you say that EP8 is quieter uphill when pedalling than Turbo Levo SL’s 1.1 Mahle? And Turbo Levo's Brose? Thanks!

Would you say that EP8 is quieter uphill when pedalling than Brose or Turbo Levo SL’s Mahle? Thanks!

It is not. Turbo Levo SL motor is 1.95 kg and the EP8 is 2,6 kg. The battery is 0,2 kg heavier too

Would you say that EP8 is quieter uphill when pedalling than Brose or Turbo Levo SL’s Mahle? Thanks!

Thanks for the comparison. Really interesting for those of us who are in doubt. Is the EP8 quieter than the SL? And the Brose? Is the rattle annoying when descending? Thanks!