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Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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Nice one
and will there be an internal 900wh option
Polar
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The price will be as high as the market is willing to pay, it is the buyer who decides the price, not the seller.I am sure there will be a lot of good stuff, what about the pricing, I bet it will be going trough the roof not just for the high end models, but overall...any thoughts...
Rando_12345
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Let me introduce you to the current mtb market, where prices are still high and all warehouses are full to the brim...
sluette
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With the current prices, the rule is probably a bit outdated. However, there are enough affluent customers who will shell out 16k for the S-Works…
Polar
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It's not a rule it's basic market mechanism
Polar
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One could argue the discounted prices are the true prices in today's market. MSRPs are meaningless currently imo.
The bigger manufactures would do well the heed the warnings of the recent bankruptcies and the increased cost of living affecting the majority of their potential customers.
I think this is why the S works and pro will get released first, for those who just want the latest and greatest or the price is pocket change.
The 2025 Gen3 (only ever seen 2025 except, comp carbon and the two alloy) hasn’t received any discounts so these price will be slashed. The gen 4 will generate buzz and a discounted 2025 Gen 3 which lets be frank is still a fantastic bike with a slightly pregnant belly will get a short term boost in sales.
Agree… I’ll buy a Gen 4 S works but not till I can get 20+% off list. If that’s a year away so be it.
Although bike prices haven’t gone through the roof… the Vala for example isn’t any more than the Heckler was etc.
I think we’re currently at the limit of what people are willing to pay.
Although bike prices haven’t gone through the roof… the Vala for example isn’t any more than the Heckler was etc.
I think we’re currently at the limit of what people are willing to pay.
sluette
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In Germany, we have the option to lease a bike like a company car. Many people argue that this is why prices have increased so much. I wonder if that is a reason because prices in the USA or UK (for example) are just as high. Is leasing an option there as well?
Polar
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A few shops in norway leas out to privat and companies also a few companies leas out ebikes to employees and the Sick leave is going down since cycling to and from work is good for your health.
Hopefully this is a starting trend that will grow
Like the 8,500 dollar s-works frame they sell now?
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DuncanDoughnuts
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Let's hope they release a new app with the new bike.....
Double l
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Let's hope the price stays low due to the fact the amount of DJI amflows that have been sold so far
Double l
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Also the new levo must have a removable battery otherwise it's a no from me
DuncanDoughnuts
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I think you looking at the wrong brand if you want a low price.....
Nah, don't really think the current DJI sales have affected Specialized in any way (yet). They have sold very few compared to what Spesh sells. Also, it's still not that easy to get your hands on one.
The AMFlow was never intended to have massive sales, it was more to show off the new system. But I don't think it will be that long till we start seeing big brands start fitting that DJI system on their bikes, and that, yes will affect their sales. So they have to be careful with pricing, IMO the price will stay the same as what it is now.
DuncanDoughnuts
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My bikes sleep inside so not really an issue for me.... but I can see the need if I was doing multiday events where I need to charge my battery at my tend and the bike is in the bike park. Or long day events where we have a battery swap water point about 50km into the race.
electricbogaloo
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Specialized is in trouble though if the DJI-System becomes available in all markets if the rumour about a much bigger intube battery is true it will most likely be heavier than the Avinox System and most likely also weaker. This could result in a scenario like the Bosch Gen5 launch when the new bikes already felt kind of outdated when compared to the Avinox.
$9k?! Where are you buying your bikes from?! I bought a S-Works frame for my wife’s build for £5200 and that was back before all the big sales started happening, bikes in the UK are generally more expensive than in the US too.
The 2025 Kenevo and Levo SL frames are both $8,000 on the Specialized US site.
Specialized will only be in trouble IF the Avinox system starts being shipped on more bike brands. Otherwise, the only people knowing about it will be enthusiasts like us, and we are very few in this emtb market, most average consumers don't even know the difference between a Bosch / Shimano / Brose motor. The same thing goes for the new Bosch Gen5 launch. Indeed, it seems 'outdated' compared with the Avinox system, but since there are no bikes available and the bosch system is everywhere, they will not be affected at all even if the battery is heavier and has less power.
Competition and innovation are great, don't get me wrong I think the DJI system is amazing, I would trade my Turbo Levo for an AMFlow without thinking twice.
Bosch/Brose for sure will look at that Avinox system and will use it as a benchmark for the next GEN, but at the time, I don't think they are yet a threat even tho their system is in paper way better. Hope this changes tho.
Double l
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Wasn't the new levo supposed to be launched last sept ? Something must have spooked them 
Polar
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I don’t really see the issue, the DJI has just got a load of power available at times but it’ll drain the battery if it’s used. Who’s actually riding an Amflow with full power all the time? Or a Levo for that matter?
For me the current Levo is more than powerful enough, it just needs more battery so can use it more of the time.
Either way, I wouldn’t look at the Amflow because of the lightweight build and tbh if I’m tanking down something really rocky at speed I want to be on something I can trust. Specialized know how to make bikes.
For me the current Levo is more than powerful enough, it just needs more battery so can use it more of the time.
Either way, I wouldn’t look at the Amflow because of the lightweight build and tbh if I’m tanking down something really rocky at speed I want to be on something I can trust. Specialized know how to make bikes.
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