Not that I've particularly noticed.Well, I'd be pretty happy if I get that out of my motor and battery. Noticed any drop in performance?
Not that I've particularly noticed.Well, I'd be pretty happy if I get that out of my motor and battery. Noticed any drop in performance?
No need for proof, all just for fun / interest! I'll update.The Neuron ON has ODO 23231 km today, but the circumference of the wheel is 1365 mm instead of 2300mm, then the actual kilometers are 34835, but I can not prove it with a photo
If we are talking about Ebikes and what everyone wants to know is how long the motor is going to last so the distance the original motor is what would be important here
Luck, never washing the engine with hose or Kärcher and cleaning the transmission well I think is the keyBut it's not just the Motor.
Most other parts fail on E Bikes just as frequently, if not more so.
As you can see from my comprehsive list. Forks, Shocks, Droppers, full brake systems, rear wheels, rock guards, power cables, speed sensor wires, frame pivot bearings, rear mechs.
I wipe out a rear wheel on every visit to an Uplift Centre.
Nearly everything apart from the frame has had to be replaced in some cases 3 times or more.
A manual mountain bike is the same - a constant headache, minus a few things that an E Bike has.
The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.Yes so much in an Ebike is just not up to the task . Road bike maintenance for example is a fraction of the cost . Maintenance on Ebike in UK condition is a lot of hours. Be interested in a survey of that . Three hours riding in wet conditions probably needs ninety minutes maintenance. Three times a week . As Alice said We still got a long way to go
But where do you draw the line on what's the original bike? You can crack the frame and get that warrantied as well, but it that the same bike? As I said before, being an Ebike, the thing that most people want to know is how long is the motor going to last. It's an expensive part of the bike and something that commonly fails.But it's not just the Motor.
Most other parts fail on E Bikes just as frequently, if not more so.
As you can see from my comprehsive list. Forks, Shocks, Droppers, full brake systems, rear wheels, rock guards, power cables, speed sensor wires, frame pivot bearings, rear mechs.
I wipe out a rear wheel on every visit to an Uplift Centre.
Nearly everything apart from the frame has had to be replaced in some cases 3 times or more.
A manual mountain bike is the same - a constant headache, minus a few things that an E Bike has.
Really? How much maintenance are you doing? We get some pretty wet winters in Tasmania and all I do after a muddy ride is hose the bike off, wipe it down and relube the chain. Takes about 10 to 15 minutes at most.The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.
Manual bikes are very nearly as bad. They still have a long way to go as well. An E Bike has a few more things that can go wrong but about 90% of the problems are on both forms of bike. I should know, I ride both.
Yes i agree .The corrosion on parts of the last motor of mine to fail was horrendous only 15 months old that one was . But you would have had to drop it out to see it or clean it properly. Removing all these piddly little bolts then cleaning the crap out round about the delicate wires on the motor TCU on the Levo is asking for trouble. Mine gets a good careful wash if needed. That can be three times a week at worst. To properly do that you would need to take cranks plastic motor covers of every time. I won't mention checking bearings etc. My headset ones get filthy I have gone through at least 2 a year . Next person saying that theirs lasts for years . Same with cassette and chains . You will never know how hard people are riding or a bike unless you go out with them . Plus I live on coast saltier air compared to inland you see it on neglected cars.The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.
Manual bikes are very nearly as bad. They still have a long way to go as well. An E Bike has a few more things that can go wrong but about 90% of the problems are on both forms of bike. I should know, I ride both.
Dare I say all mine luckily been warranty claims over and above what I should have got. Dropper a few cables sone of which are not cheap as you know 3 motors frame so i cant complain. . Ebikes have a long way to go if they are to be used to their full capability but that's only my opinion. Some folk on here do megamiles no maintenance and everything is tickets boo. Others get loads and it's because of their maintenance routine. We will never know.I've gone through 3 Motors but I've also gone through 2 Forks, 3 Rear Shocks, 3 Rear Wheels, 3 Full Brake Systems, 3 Dropper Posts. A Motor is another complicated and expensive componant to a bike just like a Fork, Rear Shock, Hydraulic brake system and Dropper Post and what all these also have in common is levels of unreliability.
That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?I've gone through 3 Motors but I've also gone through 2 Forks, 3 Rear Shocks, 3 Rear Wheels, 3 Full Brake Systems, 3 Dropper Posts. A Motor is another complicated and expensive componant to a bike just like a Fork, Rear Shock, Hydraulic brake system and Dropper Post and what all these also have in common is levels of unreliability.
Real Mountain biker him Jim he broke an Anvil once.That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?
I was wondering about this for a while. I bought the Levo Comp for £5k but noticed the S Works was over £13k. I was wondering if the S Works has the same reliability, and thought I'd be gutted if it was after paying that much!I think it is best to buy the ebike you decide in its cheapest version, because the reliability is the same, but the price you pay is not
The forks developed CSU (Crown Steerer Unit) issues and the shocks were still working but started leaking oil and/or the stantions started going discoloured which meant they were on their way out and needed replacing.That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?
The motors and electronics are identical. All 700 batteries are the same as well. S-works is just the parts bolted to it.I was wondering about this for a while. I bought the Levo Comp for £5k but noticed the S Works was over £13k. I was wondering if the S Works has the same reliability, and thought I'd be gutted if it was after paying that much!
That's not really relevant to the motor though. I can go down a really steep hill and hit 80kph with the motor off.I would like to know what the maximum speed shown on the display is, could you add one more column?
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Agreed. A good idea, but would probably be better in another thread.That's not really relevant to the motor though. I can go down a really steep hill and hit 80kph with the motor off.
It's kind of the point of the thread, is to show how well people motors were lasting.
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