Levo Gen 2 What on the Gen3 Levo will work on the Gen2

[DuncanDoughnuts]

I know this might be pie in the sky.... or premature.
But if we were to speculate... What parts from the Gen3 Levo will work on the Gen2 ?

Master mind .. YES (This is fantastic)
New Motor cover and Plug connector. ????
Angle Set?
650 Wheel rear wheel (YES )
New Motor 2.2 ? I believe so

When all the parts come available and if you can retrofit the gen2, I think it would be a better bike and you can run both 29 and 27.5 based on the terrain you riding that week.

Any thoughts ?

 

[head]

I would like to see compatibility with the new 2.2 motor. I'm on a 3rd motor now and if (when) this one breaks, I would like to get the new one which I hope is now fixed for real. Other than that I'm pretty much satisfied with my levo after I upgraded suspension on it. Also, 29'' front and rear works for me.

 

[hbakken]

I would like to see compatibility with the new 2.2 motor. I'm on a 3rd motor now and if (when) this one breaks, I would like to get the new one which I hope is now fixed for real. Other than that I'm pretty much satisfied with my levo after I upgraded suspension on it. Also, 29'' front and rear works for me.

It's the same motor..

 

[Mtbvkk]

According to this at approx 2:30 matermind wont work with current bikes after next update.

 

[Zimmerframe]

It would seem strange to make something incompatible via a software update which obviously works with the present systems.

Wonder if they're just trying to down play it to reduce interest for now as they don't have any stock anyway.

 

[Mtbvkk]

It would seem strange to make something incompatible via a software update which obviously works with the present systems.

Wonder if they're just trying to down play it to reduce interest for now as they don't have any stock anyway.

I agree - there seems no reason to limit its usage given similar systems ( and same motor even on levo ). Doesnt inspire brand loyalty. Hopefully it’s an erroneous quote.

 

[MrSimmo]

I know this might be pie in the sky.... or premature.
But if we were to speculate... What parts from the Gen3 Levo will work on the Gen2 ?

Master mind .. YES (This is fantastic)
New Motor cover and Plug connector. ????
Angle Set?
650 Wheel rear wheel (YES )
New Motor 2.2 ? I believe so

When all the parts come available and if you can retrofit the gen2, I think it would be a better bike and you can run both 29 and 27.5 based on the terrain you riding that week.

Any thoughts ?

2.2 Motor - yes with firmware 7.4.1 and newer. Older firmware versions are highly likely to error out during a ride.

Mastermind TCU - yes until forthcoming software update which will remove support for 2.1 motors, so you’ll need to swap the motors at that point.

Motor cover and battery plug - unlikely due to different frame design. You may be able to cut the plastic but it wont be a lift and swap.

27.5 rear wheel - yup people do it today, although I’ve not seen anyone switch the rear triangle for the Gen3 so not sure if that will fit.

 

[head]

It's the same motor..

Reportedly, the belt is wider now. I presume that they make incremental improvements on the motor, so even if the motor "is the same", I hope that they already fixed the motor issues.

 

[Mtbvkk]

2.2 Motor - yes with firmware 7.4.1 and newer. Older firmware versions are highly likely to error out during a ride.

Mastermind TCU - yes until forthcoming software update which will remove support for 2.1 motors, so you’ll need to swap the motors at that point.

Motor cover and battery plug - unlikely due to different frame design. You may be able to cut the plastic but it wont be a lift and swap.

27.5 rear wheel - yup people do it today, although I’ve not seen anyone switch the rear triangle for the Gen3 so not sure if that will fit.

What about the SL wrt mastermind?

 

[salko]

Reportedly, the belt is wider now. I presume that they make incremental improvements on the motor, so even if the motor "is the same", I hope that they already fixed the motor issues.

Afaik thicker, not wider ?

 

[MrSimmo]

What about the SL wrt mastermind?

Same as Levo, works at the mo; even supports battery percentage whilst charging which the Levo/Kenevo doesnt ?

 

[Mtbvkk]

Same as Levo, works at the mo; even supports battery percentage whilst charging which the Levo/Kenevo doesnt ?

Thanks — good to know about %age. Was specifically asking about TCU upgrade invalidating levo and whetber same applies to SL.

 

[MrSimmo]

Thanks — good to know about %age. Was specifically asking about TCU upgrade invalidating levo and whetber same applies to SL.

It's unlikely for the time being until the new SL is released, and then after that point Specialized will want to run a few production bikes 'in the wild' before they lock out older generations (in case they need to retrofit motors in the event of an issue).

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Ok. This morning I figured out how to get my levo battery percentage in my garmin forerunner 935. So now don’t need the tcu anymore. (Would be nice though)
Just the new motor.... well updated one when mine blows.... and it’s going to blow at some point.

 

[Jeff McD]

Wanting to try mullet configuration so wouldn't it be nice if possible to fit the 2022 rear triangle, shock link, and X2 shock on my 2020 Levo, to get the initial rearward axle path for better rollover like the 29 inch wheels, and a second flip chip in the rear triangle to better prevent increased pedal strikes since frame not designed for mullet config. Keeping fingers crossed specialized will offer this separately.

 

[Steveg56]

I just got my Bullit XT kit and was considering waiting on the new Gen 3 Levo myself. My wife has a 2020 Levo Comp and so I do have some comparisons. Off the bat the EP8 is very quiet going up and mine is very quiet going down (no noticeable knocking noise) so I’m very happy there as I’ve heard the rumblings from the net. Love the 170/170 front and back as it’s a very plush ride and very stable...I’m much faster going down now without even trying to be. Love how the EP8 is small motor and now very quiet opposed to the Levo having a large very Ebike looking motor. Levo’s are tanks comparatively at least in the Comp trim line. The Gen 3 Levo is step in the right direction Geo wise and I’m sure will be a fantastic bike, but the Santa Cruz is sex appeal and super light. You’ve had the Levo’s ....it’s time for something new and exciting and the Bullit will compliment your Gen 2 Levo very well. Just my 2c.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

I just got my Bullit XT kit and was considering waiting on the new Gen 3 Levo myself. My wife has a 2020 Levo Comp and so I do have some comparisons. Off the bat the EP8 is very quiet going up and mine is very quiet going down (no noticeable knocking noise) so I’m very happy there as I’ve heard the rumblings from the net. Love the 170/170 front and back as it’s a very plush ride and very stable...I’m much faster going down now without even trying to be. Love how the EP8 is small motor and now very quiet opposed to the Levo having a large very Ebike looking motor. Levo’s are tanks comparatively at least in the Comp trim line. The Gen 3 Levo is step in the right direction Geo wise and I’m sure will be a fantastic bike, but the Santa Cruz is sex appeal and super light. You’ve had the Levo’s ....it’s time for something new and exciting and the Bullit will compliment your Gen 2 Levo very well. Just my 2c. View attachment 58158

lovely looking bike, congrats