Trance 5 power settings is that too many?

[Andy A]

Hi guys I am more or less decided on the Trance E +2 but I am not sure about the 5 power settings as it seems like two too many! So what are your thoughts is it ok do you get on with it and do you like having 5 settings?

Thanks

 

[Janluke]

I like it especially with the Giant app that allows you to tune each one. You get just the right pedal feel for ever surface or incline. I tend to use the bottom three settings most of the time with the top two as a get out of trouble setting

 

[Andy A]

I like it especially with the Giant app that allows you to tune each one. You get just the right pedal feel for ever surface or incline. I tend to use the bottom there settings most of the time with the top two as a get out of trouble setting

Ahh a positive opinion that's good it's the only thing I am unsure of so it would be good to get some good comments

 

[bullet]

Syncdrive Pro Motor is great.
Level 1,2,3 give plenty of assistance. Hardly used 4 and 5, maybe when i find a mountain trail steep enough..!!

 

[Mat_Ron]

You can use the app to adjust each level so that all that is necessary to use is two or three levels.

 

[bullet]

Don't let the 5 settings put you off, great motor.

 

[MattyB]

The configurable support in all modes via the app is very handy (take note Shimano ), but it is a bit mystifying that they don’t have an adaptive support mode a la the Bosch EMTB or Shimano Trail. They have all the sensors to do it; it would appear to be just a matter of writing the software. Very strange.

 

[Pottsy]

5 modes is fine. Fine tune to suit yourself. Ignore 2 of them if you only want 3.

 

[Andy A]

Thanks guys you have put my mind at rest I will be paying the deposit tomorrow

 

[Alcove]

I like the 5 as you have more flexibility to battery usage depending on your planned ride. Generally I use 3,4,5 and 1,2 only when I’m trying to make it back home with low juice...

 

[friartuckshop]

Thanks guys you have put my mind at rest I will be paying the deposit tomorrow

You wont regret the purchase. fantastic bike for the money

 

[Andy A]

You wont regret the purchase. fantastic bike for the money

That's great to know it has still been a difficult choice to get my first ebike as I go riding with two friends who don't have one so I have been racked with guilt feelings about it but sod it

 

[Andy A]

Well deposit just paid so I just have to sort the balance this week.

 

[bullet]

just did 23k on quantocks, elevation gain 4300ft, out for 2 hours 10, 54% of battery used, mainly in 2 and 3 mode. happy with that. think i might get a softer seat though...

 

[Lee67]

Ive never used 3/4/5 modes even on big peaks rides.... eco + is a beast imo...

 

[minty15389]

iv changed my eco mode on the app to 60% instead of 100% assistance its amazing how much difference it makes on your battery life! fab bike you will love it!!!!

 

[Silato]

iv changed my eco mode on the app to 60% instead of 100% assistance its amazing how much difference it makes on your battery life! fab bike you will love it!!!!

100% on eco seems too much

 

[Alcove]

100% on eco seems too much

I went 1=50% and 5=360%. 2,3,4 with the staggered distribution

 

[Sophie777]

The configurable support in all modes via the app is very handy (take note Shimano ), but it is a bit mystifying that they don’t have an adaptive support mode a la the Bosch EMTB or Shimano Trail. They have all the sensors to do it; it would appear to be just a matter of writing the software. Very strange.

Apologize for my ignorance.
What is "adaptive support mode"?

 

[RobNevyn]

Apologize for my ignorance.
What is "adaptive support mode"?

Both Bosch & Shimano have a mode that you can ride in that will automatically change the assisted power amount according to how you are pedaling, for example, if you are just idling along a flat and easy road then the bike will automatically dial down the assist percentage that the motor is delivering to save battery power, in contrast to that if you are pedaling up a steep hill and working hard, then the power will automatically give more assist to help you climb without changing the settings on your controller.

I also had wondered why Yamaha/Giant do not have this feature in their controls. I agree that it is likely a software program change that they could be added via flashing the firmware or something similar.

 

[Sophie777]

Both Bosch & Shimano have a mode that you can ride in that will automatically change the assisted power amount according to how you are pedaling, for example, if you are just idling along a flat and easy road then the bike will automatically dial down the assist percentage that the motor is delivering to save battery power, in contrast to that if you are pedaling up a steep hill and working hard, then the power will automatically give more assist to help you climb without changing the settings on your controller.

I also had wondered why Yamaha/Giant do not have this feature in their controls. I agree that it is likely a software program change that they could be added via flashing the firmware or something similar.

Thanks for that great explanation!

I just wondering though... I am a weak rider.
So if I am trying to get up a hill, and "working hard" - but "working hard" for me is probably not the torque most other people put into the pedals when they're working hard.

Is the Shimano or Bosche system able to sense someone "working hard" even when they are not putting in much torque - because they can't (like me)?

 

[Silato]

I went 1=50% and 5=360%. 2,3,4 with the staggered distribution

Sounds like a good suggestion, I'm picking my +2 up on Saturday, is it easy to set up with the app. I've got the app on phone already waiting ?

 

[Andy A]

What is the app called so I can get it loaded onto my phone?

 

[Silato]

What is the app called so I can get it loaded onto my phone?

Giant ride control is in playstore on android

 

[Lee67]

App is easy to use, alltho i left mine as is and only use 1& 2

 

[Andy A]

Giant ride control is in playstore on android

Thanks

 

[mark.ai]

I just wondering though... I am a weak rider.
So if I am trying to get up a hill, and "working hard" - but "working hard" for me is probably not the torque most other people put into the pedals when they're working hard.

Is the Shimano or Bosche system able to sense someone "working hard" even when they are not putting in much torque - because they can't (like me)?

I don't know about the Bosch system, but the Shimano on max assist mode gives 300% of whatever power the rider is able to apply. So, say you want the motor to be giving out 450 Watts then you would have to be pedalling with 150 Watts yourself.

But the combined power (rider + motor) you would need to get up a hill will depend on how steep the hill is, what your weight is, how fast you want to go (what your lowest easiest gear is).

I think the only way you will know if it will work for you is to actually try it on a representative hill and see. Unless you've used any power meters in the past and know what sort of power you can pedal with?