Stronger Wheels?

[Kiwi73]

So my bike is less than a week old and I've already dented the rear wheel (in 2 places) and bent a spoke.
My rims are Sunringle Duroc 40's.
I think they made them from butter

Any suggestions for a stronger rear wheel?

Now I can see the value in a pair of Spengle's 3 spoke carbon wheels

 

[drjarvis2003]

If you want stronger wheels, go for DT Swiss. But I suggest you get some vittoria air liners in any case as you will just trash your wheels anyway. I have been though 4 wheels in the past and learned the hard way.

 

[Tamas]

Spank Oozy Trail 395+ rims are bomb proof for me. They are 35mm internal and can be had for ~80€.

 

[Kiwi73]

@drjavis2003 The Vittoria Air Liner looks pretty good. I'll get a couple.

 

[Dirtnvert]

Tire liners are worth their weight I find. I’ve been using huck norris in the rear(next ones will be vittoria or Nukeproof new one probably) and it’s saved me countless rims and tire pinches. Pretty much need a new one every tire though.
Rims I like the dt Swiss (471 and 500 ? I think are the models), spank rims, new Stan’s flow(ex?) and limited days on the hope dh’s But they’ve been great so far. Back to ghetto tubeless system and it’s so much better than any tape I’ve used. Tough to set up with spank/Michelin combo but stretch the bead with a few installs before you set it up and your good. Zero issues until the tire is worn out and I haven’t lost more than a few psi all summer

 

[Kernow]

I can vouch for the spank oozy 395 with j pull spokes , seem to be bullet proof .
Running them with ratbite inserts and normal duty tyres , not had an issue all season , not even had to adjust the spokes and Iam 100kg riding some very rocky terrain . I think the inserts /tyre liners have probably saved me about 7 tyres this year

 

[Dirtnvert]

Spanks are a great price too. The channel on th middle makes them a battle to set up tubeless but they’re worth it. Stretch the tire bead with a few off/ons before you add any tape or ghetto system. If you use tape you’re better off if you air up a tube with lots of psi and leave it over night. That’ll push the tubeless tape into the channel and it’ll stick to the rim better. I recommend this vids method though

 

[Kernow]

Spanks are a great price too. The channel on th middle makes them a battle to set up tubeless but they’re worth it. Stretch the tire bead with a few off/ons before you add any tape or ghetto system. If you use tape you’re better off if you air up a tube with lots of psi and leave it over night. That’ll push the tubeless tape into the channel and it’ll stick to the rim better. I recommend this vids method though

All rims are similar , Check out the taping video on the spank website . They use a particular tape that’s narrower and tape one half at a time overlapping . It works very well ,

 

[drjarvis2003]

@drjavis2003 The Vittoria Air Liner looks pretty good. I'll get a couple.

Just as a footnote here, I have tried various other inserts and still managed to damage the rim. Bonus with the air liner is, that you can still ride it even if you lose all the air from the tyre.

 

[Dirtnvert]

All rims are similar , Check out the taping video on the spank website . They use a particular tape that’s narrower and tape one half at a time overlapping . It works very well ,

Similar to a degree but I can’t think of another rim with a depressed channel quite like the spank. It’s very abrupt. 2 overlapping thinner strips of tape makes sense. Still quite the bend in the tape and the glue on tape gets broken down over time by the sealant. Problem I’ve found with the hope and stand rim is they have tiny heat bleed holes(for when they’re welded) on the inner rim up against the sidewall and tape barely covers them because they are so close to the sidewall. Ghetto tubeless solves all that

 

[Kernow]

Ghetto tubeless seems very effective if done right , I always meant to try it on some non tubeless I had that just didn’t like the conventional method , the stans rubber rim tape system with the valve built into a rubber band does similar I guess , that looks effective too . I was given a kit for my 29er xc bike which I intend to try with some non tubeless touring tyres .

 

[Dirtnvert]

The clincher(literally and figuratively) with the ghetto system is that it goes up past the bead of the tire. You still hear the pop when you inflate the tire and it seats. I had been trimming the excess off with an exacto knife but I’ll be doing the rubber cement to the excess and gluing it to the tire sidewall, additional step, as in the vid I posted. It looks cleaner than I thought it be and no air is getting out along w additional protection. I ride exactly like Aaron Gwin too, so there’s that...............
My current ghetto set up sat in the cold shed all winter and barely needed a top up in the spring.a few weeks were -20. I’ve had a couple regular taped tubeless systems fair ok over the winter but they always fail at some point. Even the ones that are perfect for a relatively long time. All of a sudden the tape gets breached. I’ve used gorilla tape, Stan’s tape, specialized and Bontrager strips and combos of all of them. The next was going to be some green coloured tape off amazon that was recommended. I’m done with glued tape now

 

[gtaadicto]

I have to replace my rear rim soon. It's a WTB ST i29 light and it's full of dings and dents, affecting tubeless effectiveness.
What do you recommend, the Oozy Trail 345 or 395? I want to get the maximum protection against dents. I usually run 2.5 WT tires and might try 2.8 tires.

 

[Tamas]

I have to replace my rear rim soon. It's a WTB ST i29 light and it's full of dings and dents, affecting tubeless effectiveness.
What do you recommend, the Oozy Trail 345 or 395? I want to get the maximum protection against dents. I usually run 2.5 WT tires and might try 2.8 tires.

I’m very satisfied with the Oozy Trail 395 rims on my Meta they are bomb proof. For 2,5/2,8 tires the 35mm internal width is perfect.

 

[Zimmerframe]

It's the curse of Knowledge .. you learn something .. it happens ..

Went out for a really early morning ride as the sun came up, felt energised and relaxed and fluid (recently been tense and lacking confidence and doing manikin imitations lately) .. FLEW ! down a downhill (at least 5kph) Felt confident with the bike and threw in a hard left, forgot about the rear tracking a different line and hit the back wheel hard on a rock, my first BURP ! Slithered to the bottom and found I was down to 0.2 bar (2.9 psi).... So maybe it's time to try the more muppet proof version of ghetto tubeless and glue the sides to the tyres.

I'm on 27.5+ and used 24" tubes when I did mine .. is this right, or would a different size be more appropriate ?

 

[Sherman]

I have to replace my rear rim soon. It's a WTB ST i29 light and it's full of dings and dents, affecting tubeless effectiveness.
What do you recommend, the Oozy Trail 345 or 395? I want to get the maximum protection against dents. I usually run 2.5 WT tires and might try 2.8 tires.

I’m very satisfied with the Oozy Trail 395 rims on my Meta they are bomb proof. For 2,5/2,8 tires the 35mm internal width is perfect.

Another vote for Oozy Trail 395. I'm running them on my acoustic bike park ride for the second season now. No problems. I have WTB Vigilante 29x2.5 in the front and in the rear Maxxis Aggressor 29x2.5WT (with cushcore).

 

[Dirtnvert]

It's the curse of Knowledge .. you learn something .. it happens ..

Went out for a really early morning ride as the sun came up, felt energised and relaxed and fluid (recently been tense and lacking confidence and doing manikin imitations lately) .. FLEW ! down a downhill (at least 5kph) Felt confident with the bike and threw in a hard left, forgot about the rear tracking a different line and hit the back wheel hard on a rock, my first BURP ! Slithered to the bottom and found I was down to 0.2 bar (2.9 psi).... So maybe it's time to try the more muppet proof version of ghetto tubeless and glue the sides to the tyres.

I'm on 27.5+ and used 24" tubes when I did mine .. is this right, or would a different size be more appropriate ?

At 5kph I would go ahead and call that a succes story. Major roost!!
I think 24" would be fine. I'm not positive and for some reason I was thinking I had used 20" and that's what I ordered to go with the new tires. I should have them on by now and have a more definitive answer but procrastination is king. Any kind of stretch around the rim I'd think would be fine, 24" may be the better choice.
It wasn't much of an issue with my rims but it was a little more struggle with my friends spank rims, so I'm going to put the tire on and off the rim a few times to stretch the bead ever so slightly. I think that should make the ghetto process quite a bit easier to do. Still super happy with mine. Tatelh have to add psi to my tires and it seems to be preserving my sealant

 

[outerlimits]

If you dented your wheel in 2 places ... Don’t go back to those 2 places. ?‍