Has it dawned on anyone that some people might just want a lighter bike and are happy to pay for the new tech that comes along with it.
4kgs is a massive difference and those that think it isn’t obviously don’t know shit from chocolate.
Ride the bike first, do yourself a favour and give an honest opinion. All bikes have their purpose and those who they work for and those they don’t. At least Specialized are now giving many different people many different options.
I think that’s a great thing both for us and for competition/innovation.
I ride my 13kg MTB more than my 22kg eBike so appreciate weight makes a difference, but after trying a few 19kg eBikes, it really doesn’t bother me much.
Anyway, I’m not knocking them for making what appears to be a great bike, just all the unnecessary hype that seems to go with it. They are a fantastic marketing company.
Yes, I have a 2.35 Magic Mary on the front with 27-29psi and a 2.4 Eddy Current with 27-29 psi on the back. Rider weight fully kitted up is 75kgs.Has anyone put a set of 29 2.3 tyres on their Levo FF and gone for a ride?
Yes, I have a 2.35 Magic Mary on the front with 27-29psi and a 2.4 Eddy Current with 27-29 psi on the back. Rider weight fully kitted up is 75kgs.
Why do you ask?
I'm guessing the theory behind the question : Does a levo with 2.3's might feel as nimble as an SL ?
I'm slightly curious if @TheBikePilot got to ride the SL during the demo session.
As a rider who was predominantly on the FF (it's starting to sound like a Ferrari for the dog owner) Levo, carrying a backpack full of camera gear and Rob's hair products, how did he find the SL in a more direct comparison ???
That's how I roll. From day 2.Has anyone put a set of 29 2.3 tyres on their Levo FF and gone for a ride?
No it doesn't. The tyres are not the defining factor here. 1. Weight. 2. Rear end.Yes, I have a 2.35 Magic Mary on the front with 27-29psi and a 2.4 Eddy Current with 27-29 psi on the back. Rider weight fully kitted up is 75kgs.
Why do you ask?
I'm guessing the theory behind the question : Does a levo with 2.3's might feel as nimble as an SL ?
I'm slightly curious if @TheBikePilot got to ride the SL during the demo session.
As a rider who was predominantly on the FF (it's starting to sound like a Ferrari for the dog owner) Levo, carrying a backpack full of camera gear and Rob's hair products, how did he find the SL in a more direct comparison ???
I literally had a car park demo (which is enough for most to buy!!) Felt super responsive, light and like a fighter aircraft instead of an airliner..
I can’t comment on 2.3’s against a Levo first hand all I will say is think of the weight saving (4kg) as the difference between having 2 x 2 litre bottles of coke strapped to the bike disappearing..it has a profound affect on the handling and feel of the bike.
Well of course they do, what kind of a business would they be if they didn’t create hype. It’s up to us to be able to tell the shit from the chocolate. Research the hell out of it and work out if it’s for you or not.I ride my 13kg MTB more than my 22kg eBike so appreciate weight makes a difference, but after trying a few 19kg eBikes, it really doesn’t bother me much.
Anyway, I’m not knocking them for making what appears to be a great bike, just all the unnecessary hype that seems to go with it. They are a fantastic marketing company.
They also both make great products
I wouldn't be so sure, small motor isn't necessarily cheaper than big motor, especially when small motor is a brand new design.Smaller motor and battery is far lower cost to make.
They could make this bike for half that price for 10% more weight.
Smaller motor and battery is far lower cost to make. The rest of the bike is just standard bike parts.
E-bike drive systems - MAHLE Group
looks like Mahle have some skills
What development cost? All the parts are made by someone else. The battery literally has less cells and they are directly related to cell price x volume. Electric motors in bikes are neither small nor advanced in any way. It's all made in china.They could make this bike for half that price for 10% more weight.
Smaller motor and battery is far lower cost to make. The rest of the bike is just standard bike parts.
And how do they pay for development costs? Software, hardware, testing, etc?
And do you have any real figures to back up your assertions? Small often means more expensive not less. It’s not a lump of metal you know.
Exactly, I could call China right now and have a thousand of these built by the end of the week for next to nothing.What development cost? All the parts are made by someone else. The battery literally has less cells and they are directly related to cell price x volume. Electric motors in bikes are neither small nor advanced in any way. It's all made in china.
This bike costs a third of the price of a Tesla model 3 when you strip out all the road tax and discount off rrp. That has the most advanced lithium and motor tech in the world right now. It seats 4 people does 155mph and 0 to 62 in 3 seconds flat.
Let that sink in.
Tesla doesn't make ebikes.... This bike costs a third of the price of a Tesla model 3 ...
... I could call China right now and have a thousand of these built by the end of the week for next to nothing.
Well of course they do, what kind of a business would they be if they didn’t create hype. It’s up to us to be able to tell the shit from the chocolate. Research the hell out of it and work out if it’s for you or not.
So much negativity on here. It’s just sad people can’t just be happy that such a bike exists.
I’ve been dying to use this one and I feel it’s describes how I feel best
View attachment 25761
What development cost? All the parts are made by someone else. The battery literally has less cells and they are directly related to cell price x volume. Electric motors in bikes are neither small nor advanced in any way. It's all made in china.
This bike costs a third of the price of a Tesla model 3 when you strip out all the road tax and discount off rrp.
No he just makes space rockets for fun instead. I'd say making a bike would be beneath him. It would be rather embarrassing for him to brag about making a light bike and then charge 12 grand for someone to buy it.Tesla doesn't make ebikes.... This bike costs a third of the price of a Tesla model 3 ...
... I could call China right now and have a thousand of these built by the end of the week for next to nothing.
Is something stopping you?
The base model can be unlocked via software to ludacris mode. Hardware is no different.What development cost? All the parts are made by someone else. The battery literally has less cells and they are directly related to cell price x volume. Electric motors in bikes are neither small nor advanced in any way. It's all made in china.
This bike costs a third of the price of a Tesla model 3 when you strip out all the road tax and discount off rrp.
You have a slight point with the Tesla comparison (though you’re dreaming if you think a base model 3 is that quick). However your first comment is woefully naive.
The World's largest electric mountain bike community.