Specialized Levo Sizing Questions and 2019 Models

[Cyclone]

Quick question,

When your dropper post is at its lowest possible setting, can you sit on the steat and touch the ground with both feet?

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The reason I'm asking is that they don't have any models left in my size (this process is becoming frustrating) and I'm thinking of just buying one that's not in my size but close enough.

Additionally, I had an email from a Specialized Supervisor (direct from head office chessington) over the weekend stating the new 2019 models will be available in stores in from August.

So again, I'm now looking at buying a bike that is not quite my usual size, but close enough (due to no stock in my size) or waiting a further 8 weeks for 2019 models release.

The only Levos available are in sizes that when I sit on them (and the dropper is at it's absolute lowest) my feet can only just touch the ground, on my absolute tip toes.

When at its highest my feet are about 30cm from the pedals at all XD

Thoughts

 

[Highflyer]

Wait !

 

[Cyclone]

But... but... I don't want to! Wahhhhhhhhhhhh

It means I miss the summer, and according to the LBS there will be minimal changes this year, maybe just a number change 2018>2019. But I think you are right, as much as it annoys me.

I will say that specialized really have made this process a complete mess and incredibly frustrating. Moving the goal posts every week and saying they have bikes they don't etc.

If any new perspective buyers buyers are looking to buy specialized I would advise them not to, customer service is not great and I see online on the other forums and Reddit, they have a very poor after sales reputation. I never got as far as after sales, as their customer service has just been the worst experience I have ever had buying any product.

What happened to the days when you walked into a bike shop, picked a bike, got fitted and you rode off? I miss those days.

 

[Highflyer]

A word from the wise here. Your dear old LBS could be talking utter BS regarding the 2019 changes in order to off load their old stock to the needy folk. If only to obtain the correct size it has to be worth the wait for you. Good luck

 

[Cyclone]

A word from the wise here. Your dear old LBS could be talking utter BS regarding the 2019 changes in order to off load their old stock to the needy folk. If only to obtain the correct size it has to be worth the wait for you. Good luck

I like you!
You tell me what I need to hear, not just what I want to hear.

And as much as I hate to say it, you are again, very possibly correct.

I can post the details of the email from specialized if anyone wants to see, but the 2019 models will be available in August. Direct from head office and not a customer service operator.

So in regard to the sizing question...
How are your feet when your dropper post is at its lowest, can you touch the ground with flat feet etc?

 

[knut7]

You should be able to pedal normally with the seatpost fully extended. If you're not comfortable in that position and need to drop the seat a little bit then I'd say the frame is too big. Wheter one is able to touch the ground with both feet flat depends on how much travel the dropper post got. I wouldn't use this to determine if the bike fits.

I would wait for the 2019 rather than getting on that's way too big. But I'm not sure I would trust the ETA of 8 weeks. Sure, it can be true, but I've waited for bikes before. That eta could very well be pushed back. And then a lot of the season has gone by. Are there any other brands you could consider that can be found locally?

 

[Highflyer]

I like you!
You tell me what I need to hear, not just what I want to hear.

And as much as I hate to say it, you are again, very possibly correct.

I can post the details of the email from specialized if anyone wants to see, but the 2019 models will be available in August. Direct from head office and not a customer service operator.

So in regard to the sizing question...
How are your feet when your dropper post is at its lowest, can you touch the ground with flat feet etc?

I run a MEDIUM frame with a 170mm dropper post. With the post fully extended my leg is only slightly bent ( optimum ) with the crank in the 6 o'clock position with feet clipped in. However with the seat post fully retracted with both feet flat on the ground my leg bend is approximately 50 degrees. This means I remain in total control of the bike on very steep declines and technical sections yet still maintain peddling efficiency during the cruise.

 

[Cyclone]

I run a MEDIUM frame with a 170mm dropper post. With the post fully extended my leg is only slightly bent ( optimum ) with the crank in the 6 o'clock position with feet clipped in. However with the seat post fully retracted with both feet flat on the ground my leg bend is approximately 50 degrees. This means I remain in total control of the bike on very steep declines and technical sections yet still maintain peddling efficiency during the cruise.

Thanks
The bike I tested was a Medium Levo Carbon Comp (default) bike like all others.
With he the seat post fully down (I'm 172cm) I was on my tip toes trying to touch the ground. With the seat post fully extended I was about 6inches away from either of the pedals (I could not reach either of them what so ever)

The issue I have here, is this means a medium is too big for me? But I'm 172cm... well into the medium range?

You should be able to pedal normally with the seatpost fully extended. If you're not comfortable in that position and need to drop the seat a little bit then I'd say the frame is too big. Wheter one is able to touch the ground with both feet flat depends on how much travel the dropper post got. I wouldn't use this to determine if the bike fits.

I would wait for the 2019 rather than getting on that's way too big. But I'm not sure I would trust the ETA of 8 weeks. Sure, it can be true, but I've waited for bikes before. That eta could very well be pushed back. And then a lot of the season has gone by. Are there any other brands you could consider that can be found locally?

Yea of course they may delay the bikes, but I have a supervisor from specialised head office telling me it's august for sure as I have been talking to them re stock etc. So I can only go with what the manufactures themselves tell me.

As for judging size, I think taking 2 exact bikes, with everything the same, and asking someone who has been fitted etc exactly how (when the dropper is fully down retracted into the frame) their feet are positioned is a good indication of fitting.

If someone says their comp Carbon was fitted to them and you are not supposed to be able to touch the ground when the dropper is fully declined, then I can say, ok.
But if they say when the dropper is fully declined you should absolutely be able have both feet on the ground when sat on the seat... we'll then the bike I was on was light years too big for me.

I must be a small as the medium carbon comp I tested when the seat post was fully down, into the frame, I had to balance on tip toes and tip from left to right.

Bizarre though that a 172cm / 5ft 7" person can't stand up straight on a medium carbon comp Levo with the seat post fully declined/retracted into the frame, at its absolute lowest.

What size / height are you guys And what bike size do you run?

 

[Witte300]

I’v Bin testriding the levo comp carbon medium this weekend. I’m 1m73 and the medium could work for me. All depending on your inner leg length off course. The seat post is almost on his max out off the frame.
Hope this helps a bit.
Grtzzz

 

[Ryder]

Can you clarify what you mean by seat full extended as it sound like you cannot even reach the pedals in that situation. Do you mean the dropper (the bit that slides up and down with the buttomn on the bars) set to fully extended or do you mean the post (the bit that goes into the seat tube and needs an allen key to move up and down) is as high as it can go?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

August is the regular time for Specialised to introduce their new models. I don't expect any changes, other than colours and maybe some spec variances (like shifter / brakes etc) but nothing massive.

I highly suspect that the root cause for the lack of sizes is that Specialised UK, like many others, didn't order enough bikes for the UK market and are now caught on the back foot! This is the year that demand has outstripped supply.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Have you tried these guys:

Buy the Specialized Men's Turbo Levo Fsr Comp Carbon 6fattie/29 Electric Mountain Bike 2018 Gloss Satin Carbon / Chameleon with free shipping - Freeborn.co.uk

 

[knut7]

Yea of course they may delay the bikes, but I have a supervisor from specialised head office telling me it's august for sure as I have been talking to them re stock etc. So I can only go with what the manufactures themselves tell me.

As for judging size, I think taking 2 exact bikes, with everything the same, and asking someone who has been fitted etc exactly how (when the dropper is fully down retracted into the frame) their feet are positioned is a good indication of fitting.

If someone says their comp Carbon was fitted to them and you are not supposed to be able to touch the ground when the dropper is fully declined, then I can say, ok.
But if they say when the dropper is fully declined you should absolutely be able have both feet on the ground when sat on the seat... we'll then the bike I was on was light years too big for me.

I must be a small as the medium carbon comp I tested when the seat post was fully down, into the frame, I had to balance on tip toes and tip from left to right.

Bizarre though that a 172cm / 5ft 7" person can't stand up straight on a medium carbon comp Levo with the seat post fully declined/retracted into the frame, at its absolute lowest.

What size / height are you guys And what bike size do you run?

The dropper fully extended will let you know if the bike fits. How much contact your feet makes with the ground is a measure of how much drop you've got on the post.

Lets try to make an estimate. The Levo Fattie M has a seat tube length of 435mm and a 125mm dropper post. I'm 181 cm with 87cm inseam (leg length). I've got a Medium frame measuring 425mm, a 150mm dropper and 35mm seatpost showing. Based on these numbers, if I were to use the Levo, I would have 50mm seatpost showing. So you can have no less than 82cm inseam to use this bike. If you can get the shop to swap the 125mm dropper for a 100mm one, then you can possibly get it to work with 79cm inseam. But 100mm drop isn't really getting your seat sufficiently out of the way for the steep descents. Unfortunately the Levo size Small comes with a 100mm dropper, so you might as well run 100mm on the M frame. Size S has a 395mm seat tube, with the 100mm dropper it should work with inseam down to 75cm.

 

[Cyclone]

Can you clarify what you mean by seat full extended as it sound like you cannot even reach the pedals in that situation. Do you mean the dropper (the bit that slides up and down with the buttomn on the bars) set to fully extended or do you mean the post (the bit that goes into the seat tube and needs an allen key to move up and down) is as high as it can go?

Let's say you have a Comp Carbon (no mods bought exactly as advertised and as sold) and you press the "dropper post" lever on the left the handle bar to fully extend (UP) the height of the seat. And then seat/post is now fully extended to its maximum length. I can't get on on the bike or seat. But if I put the bike on a stand, clamber onto the seat, and sit My bum on the seat, my feet don't touch the pedals at all on the bike in any way shape or form. I'm about 6"+ away from the pedals.

so the only way for me to have my bum in the seat, AND touch the pedals with my feet (so I can cycle) is to fully press the dropper post lever again and fully drop the post into the chamber 100% at which point I can reach the pedals and cycle. But this leaves me no space to use a dropper. In other words the dropper is useless as even at its fully inserted / dropped level I just reach the pedals. So I would only never press the dropper post leaver as I felt I did, I would stop my self from touching the pedals.
So I can't reduce the length of the seat for downhill trials etc as it would already be at its 100% lowest setting. Meaning I have little to no clearance for down hill trials etc.

August is the regular time for Specialised to introduce their new models. I don't expect any changes, other than colours and maybe some spec variances (like shifter / brakes etc) but nothing massive.

I highly suspect that the root cause for the lack of sizes is that Specialised UK, like many others, didn't order enough bikes for the UK market and are now caught on the back foot! This is the year that demand has outstripped supply.

They confirmed that the bikes will be in stores by august, so it looks like I'll have to wait. It's 8/9 weeks away but that's life I suppose, which sucks a little as this experience hass been a really unpleasant (and time consuming) one :-/

Have you tried these guys:

Buy the Specialized Men's Turbo Levo Fsr Comp Carbon 6fattie/29 Electric Mountain Bike 2018 Gloss Satin Carbon / Chameleon with free shipping - Freeborn.co.uk

Yea I spoke to them and they don't have my size at all they offered me 15% discount which I would buy in a heartbeat but they just don't have my size on the bike I want.

I need a small expert carbon or a small s-works apparently as medium is for giants from what I can tell I would probably consider a small Comp Carbon if it was a good price, but it's not the one I really want.

The dropper fully extended will let you know if the bike fits. How much contact your feet makes with the ground is a measure of how much drop you've got on the post.

Lets try to make an estimate. The Levo Fattie M has a seat tube length of 435mm and a 125mm dropper post. I'm 181 cm with 87cm inseam (leg length). I've got a Medium frame measuring 425mm, a 150mm dropper and 35mm seatpost showing. Based on these numbers, if I were to use the Levo, I would have 50mm seatpost showing. So you can have no less than 82cm inseam to use this bike. If you can get the shop to swap the 125mm dropper for a 100mm one, then you can possibly get it to work with 79cm inseam. But 100mm drop isn't really getting your seat sufficiently out of the way for the steep descents. Unfortunately the Levo size Small comes with a 100mm dropper, so you might as well run 100mm on the M frame. Size S has a 395mm seat tube, with the 100mm dropper it should work with inseam down to 75cm.

My inside leg is (poorly measured quickly just now) around 74/76cm (28"/30") and my height is 172cm (5ft 7") I'm not sure how that would work out in terms of a small/medium bike etc but judging by your math my inside leg is 10cm less than you (4") therefore if you get around 50mm of seatpost showing, I would need -50mm showing which makes me think even though I'm well into the height range of a medium, I may indeed need a small?

Great write up by the way, really appreciate the help figuring this out. Do you think judging by height and inside leg a small would be better? Specializeds official sizing guide has me will into the medium frame size at 5ft 7" so why I would need a small is bizarre? That bike is only rated up to 5ft 5" or something? Won't that affect knees hitting handlebars?

 

[caterhamnut]

My thoughts....firstly, I totally understand your impatience to ‘just get a damn bike’ - i’m exactly the same, and once I have decided to spend the dosh, I have been known to compromise because I want it there and then.....so I feel your pain!

However - in this case.....I’d wait. I suspect the lack of bikes is simply because they are running the stock down for the new model year to be introduced.
These things are expensive - wait and get exactly what you want in terms of fit. From what I understand, the bike you have tried is simply too big - it isn’t just our height, but our proportion - you can be 6ft tall with 3ft legs, or 6ft tall with 2ft,legs (you know what I mean anyway) so don’t just go by the charts...
IMO, you need the range the dropper post gives to ride efficiently on the flat, and to totally change your body position and be able to move around on the down bits? - I think you would regret getting a compromised size bike pretty quickly - and as a new model comes out very soon, it might be hard to move that ‘wrong’ bike on and then get the correct sized bike in a few months....

Much as it’s tough - wait a bit....they have your name, you are (maybe) at the front of the queue for a new bike, and maybe you’ll have a better colour choice, slightly better brakes etc....but you almost will certainly have a bike that fits you properly, and gives you the confidence to enjoy it to the full....

Cheers

 

[knut7]

My inside leg is (poorly measured quickly just now) around 74/76cm (28"/30") and my height is 172cm (5ft 7") I'm not sure how that would work out in terms of a small/medium bike etc but judging by your math my inside leg is 10cm less than you (4") therefore if you get around 50mm of seatpost showing, I would need -50mm showing which makes me think even though I'm well into the height range of a medium, I may indeed need a small?

Great write up by the way, really appreciate the help figuring this out. Do you think judging by height and inside leg a small would be better? Specializeds official sizing guide has me will into the medium frame size at 5ft 7" so why I would need a small is bizarre? That bike is only rated up to 5ft 5" or something? Won't that affect knees hitting handlebars?

There's a few things confusing me. First of all, my estimate. I don't think the Small Levo can only be used by people with inseam >75cm. Probably there's difference in how the seat tube is measured between brands. Also, you say your feet are some 6 in away from the pedals, seatpost fully extended. The dropper is 5"/125mm, are your feet properly on the pedals with the seat in the lowest position?

Vitus says their e-Sommet S with a 382mm seat tube and 125mm dropper will fit 71-76cm inseam, which doesn't make sense using my estimate. It's easy getting lost and confused comparing geo numbers, so let's forget about it. At 172cm one can probably use both S and M in most brands, but the ~75cm inseam is probably limiting you to S. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm between M and L in most brands, and, unless they're small for their size, i prefer M. I 'm increasing stem length though, by 5-10mm, that will help with distance to handlebars. But it won't help with distance to steerer tube. Wear light knee pads Sizing down isn't a bad thing with ebikes. Like Fabien Barell said:

Don't believe that you will ride the same geometry on an ebike that you will actually be riding on a normal bike. (...) I do believe that on an ebike you can allow yourself to actually go slightly smaller in geometry, in terms of front center, to keep a certain handling efficiency on trail riding.

Are there any other brands with emtbs in your area? Just sitting on a few should help you know what will fit in terms of seat height. I think height+inseam is good once you know which combination of seat tube lengths and dropper travel you can use.

 

[Cyclone]

My thoughts....firstly, I totally understand your impatience to ‘just get a damn bike’ - i’m exactly the same, and once I have decided to spend the dosh, I have been known to compromise because I want it there and then.....so I feel your pain!

However - in this case.....I’d wait. I suspect the lack of bikes is simply because they are running the stock down for the new model year to be introduced.
These things are expensive - wait and get exactly what you want in terms of fit. From what I understand, the bike you have tried is simply too big - it isn’t just our height, but our proportion - you can be 6ft tall with 3ft legs, or 6ft tall with 2ft,legs (you know what I mean anyway) so don’t just go by the charts...
IMO, you need the range the dropper post gives to ride efficiently on the flat, and to totally change your body position and be able to move around on the down bits? - I think you would regret getting a compromised size bike pretty quickly - and as a new model comes out very soon, it might be hard to move that ‘wrong’ bike on and then get the correct sized bike in a few months....

Much as it’s tough - wait a bit....they have your name, you are (maybe) at the front of the queue for a new bike, and maybe you’ll have a better colour choice, slightly better brakes etc....but you almost will certainly have a bike that fits you properly, and gives you the confidence to enjoy it to the full....

Cheers

It's almost like you read my mind/feelings. I just want to walk in, buy a bike, go on the trails. But 8 weeks later they still can't source one, there is confusion on my size and the end of the riding season is forever getting closer. I agree with everything in your post. But I don't want to XD

There's a few things confusing me. First of all, my estimate. I don't think the Small Levo can only be used by people with inseam >75cm. Probably there's difference in how the seat tube is measured between brands. Also, you say your feet are some 6 in away from the pedals, seatpost fully extended. The dropper is 5"/125mm, are your feet properly on the pedals with the seat in the lowest position?

Vitus says their e-Sommet S with a 382mm seat tube and 125mm dropper will fit 71-76cm inseam, which doesn't make sense using my estimate. It's easy getting lost and confused comparing geo numbers, so let's forget about it. At 172cm one can probably use both S and M in most brands, but the ~75cm inseam is probably limiting you to S. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm between M and L in most brands, and, unless they're small for their size, i prefer M. I 'm increasing stem length though, by 5-10mm, that will help with distance to handlebars. But it won't help with distance to steerer tube. Wear light knee pads Sizing down isn't a bad thing with ebikes. Like Fabien Barell said:


Are there any other brands with emtbs in your area? Just sitting on a few should help you know what will fit in terms of seat height. I think height+inseam is good once you know which combination of seat tube lengths and dropper travel you can use.

There is no way that dropper was only 5" long on the comp carbon? The bike seat / dropper when at its lowest point was around belly height. When fully extended it was around chin height. This was an off the shelf comp carbon. The dropper post (the metal bar attached to the seat) was more like 30cm 12" long?

I'm now beginning to wonder if my bike shop even know what they are talking about? I'm beginning to think this may have been a large? They checked the serial number and said it was a medium, but none of this is making any sense.

I wish I could test another bike, but there is not one shop anywhere near me witching 200 miles that has one in stock in the sizes needed. I really don't understand this business model by specialized at all? XD

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

There is no way that dropper was only 5" long on the comp carbon? The bike seat / dropper when at its lowest point was around belly height. When fully extended it was around chin height. This was an off the shelf comp carbon. The dropper post (the metal bar attached to the seat) was more like 30cm 12" long?

This may sound like a daft question, but was the seat post adjusted?

 

[Ryder]

Let's say you have a Comp Carbon (no mods bought exactly as advertised and as sold) and you press the "dropper post" lever on the left the handle bar to fully extend (UP) the height of the seat. And then seat/post is now fully extended to its maximum length. I can't get on on the bike or seat. But if I put the bike on a stand, clamber onto the seat, and sit My bum on the seat, my feet don't touch the pedals at all on the bike in any way shape or form. I'm about 6"+ away from the pedals.

so the only way for me to have my bum in the seat, AND touch the pedals with my feet (so I can cycle) is to fully press the dropper post lever again and fully drop the post into the chamber 100% at which point I can reach the pedals and cycle. But this leaves me no space to use a dropper. In other words the dropper is useless as even at its fully inserted / dropped level I just reach the pedals. So I would only never press the dropper post leaver as I felt I did, I would stop my self from touching the pedals.
So I can't reduce the length of the seat for downhill trials etc as it would already be at its 100% lowest setting. Meaning I have little to no clearance for down hill trials etc.

If that is the case and the seat post is fully inserted in the seat tube (as low as it can go) the bike does not even come close to fitting you and you should go for the next size down. I would also look for a different shop as no reputable shop should sell you a bike that is that bad a fit. You must be able to reach the pedals with the post and pedal comfortably with the post full extended, that is what a dropper is for...when pedalling you have it ully extended and drop it for the downs.

 

[Highflyer]

FYI folks, I ordered and paid in full during December fro my S-Works Levo. It finally arrived end of April !!

 

[Doomanic]

Watch a few YouTube videos on bike fit and seat setup. That should give you an idea of how the bike should fit.

It sounds like your LBS is either incompetent or desperate to foist old stock on anyone who'll open their wallet. Either option is bad.

For reference, I'm 1.77m tall with short legs relative to my height and I ride a Large Nukeproof Mega and a 19.5" Trek Powerfly. The Trek is actually slightly smaller and suits me better. On the Nuke the seatpost is fully (and I mean fully) inserted and is just low enough. On the Trek It's out of the frame by about 10mm and is spot on. On both bikes I have to stand on tiptoe to have any hope of reaching the ground with the posts extended but can comfortably stand with my feet flat on the ground with the posts dropped.

 

[Doomanic]

saddle height mountain bike - YouTube

 

[Cyclone]

This may sound like a daft question, but was the seat post adjusted?

It's adjustable, and was at its lowest too.
It's hard to explain but let's imagine the extendable post wasn't present or was fully retracted into the frame, and the seat was essentially sitting directly on top of the frames seat posts, at its absolute lowest point (so you have pushed the seat tubes etc into the frame, the seat is at its ultimate lowest point) can't get any lower, I can pedal, and I can touch the pedals perfectly, but I can't touch the ground with my feet.

The seat is already around hip/waist level at its lowest, and If I were to try and straddle the seat, I would not be able to get my leg over it. I would have to straddle the frame, stand on a pedal, and climb up to the seat from there.

From here on I can touch the pedals perfectly.
But if you were to raise the seat with the dropper remote on the left handle bar by 1" my feet would be off the pedals. Therefore I have 0% downward adjustability (as it's already 100% down) and 100% useless upward movement that I can't use as if that seat goes up an inch, I can't reach the pedals.

If that is the case and the seat post is fully inserted in the seat tube (as low as it can go) the bike does not even come close to fitting you and you should go for the next size down. I would also look for a different shop as no reputable shop should sell you a bike that is that bad a fit. You must be able to reach the pedals with the post and pedal comfortably with the post full extended, that is what a dropper is for...when pedalling you have it ully extended and drop it for the downs.

Yea this is the issue. No one has bikes to measure me on. And according to all literature I'm a medium or large? Yet the 1 medium I found and tested left me in the situation above?

 

[Cyclone]

I might pop into Evans (ugh) and get them to measure me on a 2018 StumpJumper as I don't think there is much difference between the Levo/Stump frames. It makes no sense, I'm honestly beginning to think the medium bike I tested at my Specialized LBS wasn't (or couldn't be) a medium, even though they tested and checked this in store.

 

[Ryder]

I might pop into Evans (ugh) and get them to measure me on a 2018 StumpJumper as I don't think there is much difference between the Levo/Stump frames. It makes no sense, I'm honestly beginning to think the medium bike I tested at my Specialized LBS wasn't (or couldn't be) a medium, even though they tested and checked this in store.

I think you might be right about the size...something sounds very odd. I may have missed it but how tall are you and do you know your inside leg measurement?

 

[Doomanic]

Whereabouts in the country are you?

 

[knut7]

There is no way that dropper was only 5" long on the comp carbon? The bike seat / dropper when at its lowest point was around belly height. When fully extended it was around chin height. This was an off the shelf comp carbon. The dropper post (the metal bar attached to the seat) was more like 30cm 12" long?

I'm now beginning to wonder if my bike shop even know what they are talking about? I'm beginning to think this may have been a large? They checked the serial number and said it was a medium, but none of this is making any sense.

I wish I could test another bike, but there is not one shop anywhere near me witching 200 miles that has one in stock in the sizes needed. I really don't understand this business model by specialized at all? XD

The Levo Comp Carbon has 125mm travel (5in) according to the specs.
MEN'S TURBO LEVO FSR COMP 6FATTIE/29 | Specialized.com

Just to make sure we're on the same page, here's a photo showing a dropper post. The total length of this one is 369mm, it's got 125mm of travel. When fully inserted it measures 169mm (travel + collar + seat clamp). (The picture is also showing numbers for a 439mm post, don't mind them)

The geo on the 2018 Stumpjumper FSR Carbon is a bit different from the Levo. The seattube on the Stumpy S is about 15mm shorter and on M it's about 25mm shorter compared to the Levo. So keep that in mind when trying the Stumpy. Don't push the seatpost all the way down.

 

[cricker]

Hey guys,

I’ve been researching emtb for last 3-4 months. Looking to buy one in about 3 months to time with our office moving. Would like to keep the daily MTB commute open but 18k each way seems more manageable on an emtb. Levo is coming out on top for the task with the other serious consideration being Kenevo as I’d use the bike for all riding.

I’ve been keeping an eye out for a demo day from specialised but nothing on the radar at the moment. Sounds like it’s because they awaiting new 2019 stock.

I would buy 2019 no want to make sure my names at top of list to time nicely. Can anyone help me on sizing. I’m currently riding an XL 2014 Giant Trance 27.5. Has been fine but think a large might have been more spirited.

My measurements in cm are:

inseam 91
trunk 70.5
forearm 37
arm 65.75
thigh 64.25
lowerleg 58
sternal notch 158.5
total heigh 194.5

Any help most appreciated.

 

[Cyclone]

The Levo Comp Carbon has 125mm travel (5in) according to the specs.
MEN'S TURBO LEVO FSR COMP 6FATTIE/29 | Specialized.com

Just to make sure we're on the same page, here's a photo showing a dropper post. The total length of this one is 369mm, it's got 125mm of travel. When fully inserted it measures 169mm (travel + collar + seat clamp). (The picture is also showing numbers for a 439mm post, don't mind them)

The geo on the 2018 Stumpjumper FSR Carbon is a bit different from the Levo. The seattube on the Stumpy S is about 15mm shorter and on M it's about 25mm shorter compared to the Levo. So keep that in mind when trying the Stumpy. Don't push the seatpost all the way down.

Hmm... that looks like exactly what's I was saying, the post was around 30cm 12" and judging by that image it says full extended length is 36cm... so maybe ... maybe the seat lost was fully extended then. If so my bike shop are a mess. They fitted me on the medium bike and checked it size and stare down it was too big for me. This would mean they didn't know the seat post could be lowered and only lowered the dropper post? Maybe? I'm not sure.

But my word, if that's the case this process has just made another hideous demonstrations of ineptitude from my LBS? I'm trying to give them between £5000/£6500 and they can't even do a bike fitting correctly? Or they are correct and the medium is too big for me? But from everything I can see online, I am a medium?

Specialized really should send each of their authorised dealers a plastic mould. Non useable bike frame for measuring or at least give them demo stock. This has been an arduous task filled with nothing but obstructions, excuses, unknowns, guess work and sheer nonsense this far from the specialized dealers....

Thank god for Rob!
These forums are a blessing!

 

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If your LBS is no help, and it's 200 miles to the next shop then you may as well consider ordering one online?

The Vitus E-Sommet has got all the data you need to know listed.
Vitus

Medium is 170-180cm and inseam 76-81cm. It could just be to big for you, I would measure carefully, twice, before getting something like this. As I've said, I'm between sizes in most brands and even with relatively long inseam I some times cannot use L due to seat height. So it's not uncommon, even though you fit the body height criteria. And keeping in mind what Fabien Barell said, S might work well for you. And I'm sure the guys at Vitus/CRC/Wiggle can help you get the right size if you decide to go that direction.

Another Popular one is the Commencal Meta Power, in my preferred color
COMMENCAL 2018 | META POWER ESSENTIAL 650B MANGO 2018
A little less info here, so I'd call/mail them before deciding.