Shimano EP6 / EP801 with PearTune or SpeedBox

[Mr-EPIC-3]

Has anyone try using a PearTune or SpeedBox module on a Shimano EP6 or EP801 motor?

 

[aarfeldt]

None of the above....but I use eMax tuning software to get higher topspeed assist, full.power torque and working AutoShift.

 

[luna87824]

None of the above....but I use eMax tuning software to get higher topspeed assist, full.power torque and working AutoShift.

So you have 11 speed?

 

[aarfeldt]

Yes....LinkGlide 11 spd deraillure XT DI2 SHADOW PLUS RD-M8150-11, shifter SW-M8150-I and computer/display EN600.
The shifter is not absolutely needed, but I like to make manual shifts anyway.

 

[aarfeldt]

The eMax software can (on EP801 motors):
- set speed limit to 50km/h (or is it 60 ?)
- set power to max 600w
- adjust wheel size if needed.
- some other stuff.

I set it to:
- speed limit 32km/h.
- power max 400w.
- enable electric shifting.
- rear sprocket max ring size: 50

Yesterday I went on a 32km ride, and it completed and at the end i had 32% battery left.
Bike: Orbea Rise M20 2023, upgraded fork, wheels, steeringbar, pedals, battery to large.

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

The eMax software can (on EP801 motors):
- set speed limit to 50km/h (or is it 60 ?)
- set power to max 600w
- adjust wheel size if needed.
- some other stuff.

I set it to:
- speed limit 32km/h.
- power max 400w.
- enable electric shifting.
- rear sprocket max ring size: 50

Yesterday I went on a 32km ride, and it completed and at the end i had 32% battery left.
Bike: Orbea Rise M20 2023, upgraded fork, wheels, steeringbar, pedals, battery to large.

So you are using the latest eMax mobile app?
What does a license cost?

 

[aarfeldt]

No....using the Windows version is step 1.
License is 119 euro (100euro plus VAT)

This is currently not a DIY job.....maybe in a later version.
The german (very friendly and very helpfull) tech needs to be connected to your PC via AnyDesk (free and no installation needed) and do his magic.
It takes a couple of minutes, and he will communite on your pc in Notepad.
You can follow his steps.

When this is over, I'm using the mobile version in the trails (version 2.40 currently)

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

No....using the Windows version is step 1.
License is 119 euro (100euro plus VAT)

This is currently not a DIY job.....maybe in a later version.
The german (very friendly and very helpfull) tech needs to be connected to your PC via AnyDesk (free and no installation needed) and do his magic.
It takes a couple of minutes, and he will communite on your pc in Notepad.
You can follow his steps.

When this is over, I'm using the mobile version in the trails (version 2.40 currently)

OK, so I need to get a PCE1 or PCE02 Shimano connect device?

 

[aarfeldt]

OK, so I need to get a PCE1 or PCE02 Shimano connect device?

Exactly.

 

[ggrin]

Shimano warranty void if you derestrict.

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

Shimano warranty void if you derestrict.

Yes understood, any company that makes eMTB motor will void the warranty of their motor
If you de-restrict it. De-restricting to get another couple MPH/KPH shouldn't damage the motor, also Shimano specs the EP6/EP801 as a Class-3 (28Mph) motor in the USA.

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

So with the exact same battery, software and motor here in Australia they are restricted to 25kmh, so in America 32kmh an hour is the speed limit so the Australian models could handle it easily at 32kmh without drama?

I am guessing, but I am sure that the EP801/EP6 motors are all spec and tested to handle 28Mph/45Kmh, speed limit is handle thru the software of the motor.

 

[ggrin]

Any pirate upgrades void the warranty. I got replacement EP8 motor for half price a year after end of warranty but I had to return first, so they could check it hadn't been hacked.

 

[paske]

The eMax software can (on EP801 motors):
- set speed limit to 50km/h (or is it 60 ?)
- set power to max 600w
- adjust wheel size if needed.
- some other stuff.

I set it to:
- speed limit 32km/h.
- power max 400w.
- enable electric shifting.
- rear sprocket max ring size: 50

Yesterday I went on a 32km ride, and it completed and at the end i had 32% battery left.
Bike: Orbea Rise M20 2023, upgraded fork, wheels, steeringbar, pedals, battery to large.

Wow, speed limit 32km/h, 32km ride and 32% left!!! Are you by chance 32 years old?

 

[webman]

Wow, speed limit 32km/h, 32km ride and 32% left!!! Are you by chance 32 years old?

It’s because he’s on 32” wheels with 32 gears. The motor was probably averaging 32nm of torque.

 

[paske]

It’s because he’s on 32” wheels with 32 gears. The motor was probably averaging 32nm of torque.

And I'm sure it was really hot that day like...32 degrees, no?

 

[webman]

And I'm sure it was really hot that day like...32 degrees, no?

Yes! on the 32nd of July…..

 

[SimonLsie]

None of the above....but I use eMax tuning software to get higher topspeed assist, full.power torque and working AutoShift.

Hi, does it work with Ep801?

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

Hi, does it work with Ep801?

I have been using the PearTune module on my EP6 motor for about 200 miles now with no error msgs, once I get to 500 miles I will say it's works. With that said the EP8/EP6 are the same motor/firmware tune from what I have read, just cover material is different. EP801 has different firmware tune, so not sure if it will pickup the PearTune module.

 

[luna87824]

I have been using the PearTune module on my EP6 motor for about 200 miles now with no error msgs, once I get to 500 miles I will say it's works. With that said the EP8/EP6 are the same motor/firmware tune from what I have read, just cover material is different. EP801 has different firmware tune, so not sure if it will pickup the PearTune mod ule.

What's the part number of the Pear Tune module you are using?

 

[Mr-EPIC-3]

What's the part number of the Pear Tune module you are using?

Here the link PearTune MSO Tuning elektrokola Shimano EP8 |Pear Control
The diagram on the website is of a E8000 motor, but they will send you the diagram of a EP8 motor with the module.

 

[aarfeldt]

Hi, does it work with Ep801?

eMax software tuning works excellent with EP801.
Currently on 1500kms without issues.