Santa Cruz Ebike

[AZRickD]

I have a series of Way-Too-Long Santa Cruz Heckler Intro videos on my AZRickD YouTube page. There is a short one. But I crashed, so you should probably skip that one.

AZRickD

 

[Hitby]

Had a good look at one of these today at BikeScene. It's a really nice looking bike. Apparently there's been a lot of interest - £7.7k though!

 

[miPbiP]

I have a series of Way-Too-Long Santa Cruz Heckler Intro videos on my AZRickD YouTube page. There is a short one. But I crashed, so you should probably skip that one.

AZRickD

hard to watch with your choice of camera angle.

envious of your winter conditions!

 

[AZRickD]

The low camera angle was a necessary evil for my purpose.
I wanted to show the pedal movement vis a vis the motor.

I suppose I could have swapped views a bit for those more interested in the scenery.

Raining in Phoenix today.
Epic riding conditions (moto and pedal) tomorrow.

 

[Dan63]

Motor certainly angles down and low, what's clearance like?

 

[AZRickD]

BB height is 345mm IIRC, which is 13.5-inches.

 

[Steveg56]

I just bought the CC S version coming from a Kenevo and couldn't be happier for my type of riding. I find myself doing mostly tight singletrack 95% of the time and this bike shines there. Feels super lite.

 

[R120]

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Great vid, Makes you realise what is actually possible on an ebike

 

[Dan63]

Very cool. D mac doesn't disappoint

 

[miPbiP]

wowser. that vid's going to sell a lot of ebikes.

@Kiwi in Wales yes see also vids of Fabien Barel throwing around a Spectral:ON. It's us, not the bikes.

 

[Doomanic]

Yeah, it’s like the “Sam Hill uses flats so everyone else should” argument. Danny Mac isn’t normal.

There’s a good video out there of his first ride on the Heckler and while he was getting used to the extra weight it’s not all successful tricks by a long shot. Still way more than I’ll ever be capable of though.

 

[deksawyer]

Inchkieth, the first island is right on my doorstep, almost literally.

 

[Fivetones]

I love the little brake chirrup noises he makes when surveying each section. You can just feel the vibe he has from vids like this. Such a class trials rider.

 

[AZRickD]

Approaching 300 miles on my Heckler-S.
No issues on the Heckler.

Using STUNLOCKER, I reduced the wheel size by a metric factor of 0.62. I now get 28-MPH in Eco and about 32-MPH in Boost (apparently the new limit). I flipped the display to read KMH which shows a facsimile of the actual MPH (due to using the metric factor of 0.62 to reduce wheel size, don't ya know?). Mainly it removes that annoying power drop-off that begins at 18.5-MPH (right when I really need it).

The Shimano E8000 really doesn't like the pedals spinning up much beyond 120 RPM. It drops of the power very quickly. I'm a spinner and use lower gears a lot, but on those quick sprints up a bump, I'll have to run a gear or two up.

I found that I wasn't getting enough suspension throw. The last inch and a half (40mm) was evading me. So, finding three spacers in the fork and two spacers in the shock, they were removed with prejudice.

I'll test them on my rocky local trail when the mid-week Phoenix rain soaks in a bit.

 

[Steveg56]

Hey AZRickD,

How did you remove the spacers? Is it difficult? I’m 195lbs, do you have any idea how many I would need in each front and rear shock? Sorry new to this mountain bike thing. Just purchased a new Heckler CC S model last week.

 

[losgatosgtr]

Levo SL has a max tire size of 2.3", and that's a non-starter for me. I need more of an all-mountain bike. I'm quite happy with my Shuttle for now, and will wait it out a year or two for the next wave of drive and battery systems that don't compromise range and power for weight.

I have the SL and you can easily fit a maxxis DHR II in 2.5 with room to spare. Many other 2.5 as well.

 

[AZRickD]

Token removal is Easy Peasy on the Fork. The shock is similar only different. Search YouTube.

I removed them all since I wanted plushness to be king to my aging joints. There is a chance that I might have to add spacers back in (maybe to the shock if it doesn't ramp up to my liking), but I'll ride it through some rough stuff for a while.

For the Fox Fork:


For the Rock Shock Shock:

 

[Gary]

Yeah, it’s like the “Sam Hill uses flats so everyone else should” argument.

I don't really see how?
The Sam Hill argument is "Sam Hill WINS on flats" "so why do you (other top pro racers) *need* clips"?

In the grand scheme of things. No matter how skilled the rider, trials looks a bit shit on an E bike. For the same reasons it'd look a bit shit done on any bike aproaching 50lb in weight.

 

[Gary]

Yeah, it’s like the “Sam Hill uses flats so everyone else should” argument.

I don't really see how?
The Sam Hill argument is "Sam Hill WINS on flats" "so why do other top pro racers *need* clips"?

In the grand scheme of things. No matter how skilled the rider, trials does look a bit shit on an E bike. For the same reasons it'd look a bit shit done on any bike aproaching 50lb in weight.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Could you say that again please...

 

[RickBullotta]

I have the SL and you can easily fit a maxxis DHR II in 2.5 with room to spare. Many other 2.5 as well.

...but you don't have mud where you live...I mean *real* mud... ;-)

 

[Gary]

TBF a DHRII isn't a *real* mud tyre. is it?

 

[Gary]

Could you say that again please...

I <3 SamHill

Trials looks shit on heavy bikes

 

[sparrow]

I <3 SamHill

Trials looks shit on heavy bikes

I can’t do any trials moves on a light bike either

 

[Jim25]

I don't really see how?
The Sam Hill argument is "Sam Hill WINS on flats" "so why do you (other top pro racers) *need* clips"?

In the grand scheme of things. No matter how skilled the rider, trials looks a bit shit on an E bike. For the same reasons it'd look a bit shit done on any bike aproaching 50lb in weight.

What like an actual trials bike?

 

[akuria]

Approaching 300 miles on my Heckler-S.
No issues on the Heckler.

Using STUNLOCKER, I reduced the wheel size by a metric factor of 0.62. I now get 28-MPH in Eco and about 32-MPH in Boost (apparently the new limit). I flipped the display to read KMH which shows a facsimile of the actual MPH (due to using the metric factor of 0.62 to reduce wheel size, don't ya know?). Mainly it removes that annoying power drop-off that begins at 18.5-MPH (right when I really need it).

The Shimano E8000 really doesn't like the pedals spinning up much beyond 120 RPM. It drops of the power very quickly. I'm a spinner and use lower gears a lot, but on those quick sprints up a bump, I'll have to run a gear or two up.

I found that I wasn't getting enough suspension throw. The last inch and a half (40mm) was evading me. So, finding three spacers in the fork and two spacers in the shock, they were removed with prejudice.

I'll test them on my rocky local trail when the mid-week Phoenix rain soaks in a bit.

Can you show a screen capture of your STunlocker? Currious on the .62 reduction. wouldn't you want to increase not reduce? I know with my truck I have bigger tires than stock so my speedo is 9% off meaning if it says i am going 60 I really am going about 64-65ish.

 

[Stuart569]

He's a legend

 

[Gary]

What like an actual trials bike?

Trials mtb or small mtb hardtail.

Not motorcycle trials. (The actual engine change things quite a lot ).

 

[AZRickD]

Currious on the .62 reduction. wouldn't you want to increase not reduce?

This is not experimental. It has actually been done. Results verified with GPS.

If your wheel setting is 2200mm (on a 27.5" rim), multiply that times 0.62. That will give you 1364mm. Change your wheel size from 2200-ish to 1364-ish.

So, when your wheels are spinning super fast, the computer will say, "Well, duh. He's spinning teensy wheels. Party-on, Garth."

Change your display to read Km/hr and you will have a representative read-out for MPH.