Raymon Trail Ray 160e 10.0

[TomOTron5000]

A few people including myself decided to pick up the latest deal on the Raymon TrailRay from Pauls cycles.

TrailRay 160E 10.0

www.raymon-bicycles.com

There is not a huge amount of info out there on the bike, but I thought it might be worth sharing what I've managed to find. Rayman looks to be a fairly new brand set up by some of the Haibike founders and seems to have links to GasGas possibly by their parent company.

The GasGas ECA 1 is essentially a re-baged TrailRay

ECA 1

For no-holds-barred riding, the GASGAS ECA 1 eMTB delivers. Primed for Enduro, the alloy frame has the right geometry to master steep technical riding and big jump lines alike.

www.gasgas.com

I've found a german review for a higher spec model...


If any one else has more info it would be interesting the hear it...

 

[tommosan]

I too was lucky enough to order one of these. Arrived yesterday, I've only had time for minor tinkering as yyet - no seat time! It looks mega in the flesh - thanks for the info and video - finding info on this bike was tough! Spec looks the best bang for buck out there at the moment.

 

[TomOTron5000]

I've been doing some more research on the Yamaha display interface x I found a couple of interesting videos explaining the features.


and how to link it to a garmin

 

[TomOTron5000]

Just been looking into frame protection....

Ride wrap don't have the a tailored kit for the TrialRay but they do seem to have one for the GasGas ECA which is identical. Currently £110.

Find Your Bike - RideWrap

Protecting your bike starts here. RideWrap makes bike frame protection kits for all styles, brands, and sizes of bicycle. Fill out the fields below …

www.ridewrap.com

 

[jackamo]

A few people including myself decided to pick up the latest deal on the Raymon TrailRay from Pauls cycles.

TrailRay 160E 10.0

www.raymon-bicycles.com

There is not a huge amount of info out there on the bike, but I thought it might be worth sharing what I've managed to find. Rayman looks to be a fairly new brand set up by some of the Haibike founders and seems to have links to GasGas possibly by their parent company.

The GasGas ECA 1 is essentially a re-baged TrailRay

ECA 1

For no-holds-barred riding, the GASGAS ECA 1 eMTB delivers. Primed for Enduro, the alloy frame has the right geometry to master steep technical riding and big jump lines alike.

www.gasgas.com

I've found a german review for a higher spec model...


If any one else has more info it would be interesting the hear it...

I've had a Raymon Fullray 150e for over 18 months now .

Found it better than my Cube stereo hybrid race by a long way.

Raymon are big on the mainland of Europe and are actually 1 of the first ebike manufacturers out there .
I used mine from black runs and trail work as it easily pull my trailer with tools and 50kgs of slab rocks in it .
Only thing I didn't like was the magura levers , which were swooped out for shimano M6100 levers .
There are a few bike shoos in the uk that support Raymon but Paul's is the place for the bargains.
I should know I've been using him for nearly 20 years .

 

[Balderovich]

I drove over to Dereham to Paul's Cycles to try out my Raymon Hardray e4 before buying. I'm glad I did as e-biking has helped me return to most of my local trails (which were getting a bit too much for my 73yrs old legs on my old 'human-powered' Voodoo Braag.)
The Hardray suits me just fine. My rides are mainly forest trails with some favourite climbs and descents. Standard kit (forks, gears and brakes) do the job but I have swapped out the seat post for my Ascend dropper and replaced the pedals with DMR11s. There had been criticism online re the Tektro brakes but mine came with Shimano Mt200s not Tektro as advertised. I put in some new mineral pads, burped the system and stopping power is now plenty good enough as is the PWTE's 60nm.
Undoubtedly you expect higher priced and specced bikes to have better components and performance but you pays your money and you takes your choice.

 

[Pedec]

GasGas eca/enduro line same bike. I own a GasGas trail 3 and it been a great bike so far 2200km. Also made by Raymon.

 

[Tuscan]

Just been looking into frame protection....

Ride wrap don't have the a tailored kit for the TrialRay but they do seem to have one for the GasGas ECA which is identical. Currently £110.

Find Your Bike - RideWrap

Protecting your bike starts here. RideWrap makes bike frame protection kits for all styles, brands, and sizes of bicycle. Fill out the fields below …

www.ridewrap.com

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Just recieved mine as well, "Man Mathsed" myself into it via cycle scheme and selling my old eBike.

Did you order the frame protection about to order some myself and unsure if fitment is good enough to warrant or go generic and leave some unprotected.

 

[whizzee]

This is my first e-bike ever and I jumped at this offer as well, after not buying one for so long due to cost. First impressions (which are probably not specific to this e-mtb in particular) is that the weight is most noticeable over the front wheel when turning at low speed. It feels much more like it wants to flop over, so in some ways requires more strength in the arms initially. Once up to speed it feels like a mtb and I didn't feel particularly limited with turning agility and popping off of curbs (only tested initially in the road outside). What does feel weird though is not being able to just wheelie away or perform manuals as easily due to the weight. Turn on the assist though and the wheelie problem goes away.

The assist feels exactly as I thought it would to be honest. The only thing I would say, is that the cut off once you've reached top speed is very noticeable to me. So I don't know whether I will derestrict mine. I think the cost to do so is a complete joke. £150 in the UK roughly for a tiny little wiring harness to unlock it. Off road, it may be a non issue though. Will have to test.

In terms of this actual bike:

I went with a size Large and I am 6ft2 skinny. I feel it's the right size. I definitely couldn't ride a medium. I feel I could ride an XL but it would just feel too stretched out and barge like. I rolled the bars forward a little bit and shifted the saddle back. I think it's a good compromise in size for me in terms of being able to chuck it about vs comfort. If I really feel cramped I can always get a slightly longer stem as the stock one is 50mm I think.

Out of the box assembled by Pauls Cycles, my front brake feels very weak. Not sure why. Doesn't bite like the rear so not sure if they contaminated it. I hate the limited shifter only doing one gear at a time, unless I am being stupid? I used to have Shimano XTR on my old bike that did 4/5 gears in one sweep. I will probably upgrade that and possibly the rear derailleur if it is not a clutch one. I can't really comment on what the gears ratios are like yet as not been off road. It feels like the range would cover me both ends but hard to say for now.

First time I've had a dropper on my own bike and it's nice. I see it is cable operated so I assume it is a mechanical/sprung version? Seems quite nice. No complaints so far except that out of the box I have excess unprotected cable coming out about an inch or so at the handle bar control. Not sure why it's like that. Is it the same for you guys?

I think one thing about the heavier e-mtbs is that I probably won't obsess about chasing upgrades that are lighter since it's kind of pointless when the thing weighs so much out of the box. I will probably only convert to tubeless to help with that. Has anyone managed to do that?

I haven't read the manual yet, but with charging, do you only charge the main battery or do you have to charge up the display unit as well? I notice the display unit has a usb port as well hence why I ask.

I'm kind of mixed thoughts right now about e-mtb. I feel like I might end up missing the purity, simplicity and lightness of riding a sort of 12kg full suss MTB, but will see when I ride it in anger off road.

 

[jackamo]

This is my first e-bike ever and I jumped at this offer as well, after not buying one for so long due to cost. First impressions (which are probably not specific to this e-mtb in particular) is that the weight is most noticeable over the front wheel when turning at low speed. It feels much more like it wants to flop over, so in some ways requires more strength in the arms initially. Once up to speed it feels like a mtb and I didn't feel particularly limited with turning agility and popping off of curbs (only tested initially in the road outside). What does feel weird though is not being able to just wheelie away or perform manuals as easily due to the weight. Turn on the assist though and the wheelie problem goes away.

The assist feels exactly as I thought it would to be honest. The only thing I would say, is that the cut off once you've reached top speed is very noticeable to me. So I don't know whether I will derestrict mine. I think the cost to do so is a complete joke. £150 in the UK roughly for a tiny little wiring harness to unlock it. Off road, it may be a non issue though. Will have to test.

In terms of this actual bike:

I went with a size Large and I am 6ft2 skinny. I feel it's the right size. I definitely couldn't ride a medium. I feel I could ride an XL but it would just feel too stretched out and barge like. I rolled the bars forward a little bit and shifted the saddle back. I think it's a could compromise in size for me in terms of being able to chuck it about vs comfort. If I really feel cramped I can always get a slightly longer stem as the stock one is 50mm I think.

Out of the box assembled by Pauls Cycles, my front brake feels very weak. Not sure why. Doesn't bite like the rear so not sure if they contaminated it. I hate the limited shifter only doing one gear at a time, unless I am being stupid? I used to have Shimano XTR on my old bike that did 4/5 gears in one sweep. I will probably upgrade that and possibly the rear derailleur if it is not a clutch one. I can't really comment on what the gears ratios are like yet as not been off road. It feels like the range would cover me both ends but hard to say for now.

First time I've had a dropper on my own bike and it's nice. I see it is cable operated so I assume it is a mechanical/sprung version? Seems quite nice. No complaints so far except that out of the box I have excess unprotected cable coming out about an inch or so at the handle bar control. Not sure why it's like that. Is it the same for you guys?

I think one thing about the heavier e-mtbs is that I probably won't obsess about chasing upgrades that are lighter since it's kind of pointless when the thing weighs so much out of the box. I will probably only convert to tubeless to help with that. Has anyone managed to do that?

I haven't read the manual yet, but with charging, do you only charge the main battery or do you have to charge up the display unit as well? I notice the display unit has a usb port as well hence why I ask.

I'm kind of mixed thoughts right now about e-mtb. I feel like I might end up missing the purity, simplicity and lightness of riding a sort of 12kg full suss MTB, but will see when I ride it in anger off road.

It takes a while to get used to the weight, but here's a few things .
The brakes take a bit longer to bed in but I recommend swoping to Galfer purple brake pads, longer lasting and great bite .
If you convert to tubeless makes use you get good setup .
As for chipping/de-restrict. A volspeed or speedbox will make the bike handle and ride like it should belive me.
The dropper post is a cable actuated one with a damper unit .

 

[DylanJM]

Out of the box assembled by Pauls Cycles, my front brake feels very weak. Not sure why. Doesn't bite like the rear so not sure if they contaminated it. I hate the limited shifter only doing one gear at a time, unless I am being stupid? I used to have Shimano XTR on my old bike that did 4/5 gears in one sweep. I will probably upgrade that and possibly the rear derailleur if it is not a clutch one. I can't really comment on what the gears ratios are like yet as not been off road. It feels like the range would cover me both ends but hard to say for now.

The one at a time shifting is to prolong the life of your drivetrain. Will wear much quicker than on a regular bike and especially so if you are shifting through multiple gears in one go.

 

[djbobski]

It takes a while to get used to the weight, but here's a few things .
The brakes take a bit longer to bed in but I recommend swoping to Galfer purple brake pads, longer lasting and great bite .
If you convert to tubeless makes use you get good setup .
As for chipping/de-restrict. A volspeed or speedbox will make the bike handle and ride like it should belive me.
The dropper post is a cable actuated one with a damper unit .

I've just received my Raymon Trail Ray 160e 10.0

Could you direct me to the exact pads I need to order please? I've never had to buy brake pads before. Also, which de-restrict option did you go with personally, and why?

All the best,
Bobski

 

[jackamo]

I've just received my Raymon Trail Ray 160e 10.0

Could you direct me to the exact pads I need to order please? I've never had to buy brake pads before. Also, which de-restrict option did you go with personally, and why?

All the best,
Bobski

Galfer purple ebike I've found to be the best , for ware and performance.

 

[djbobski]

Galfer purple ebike I've found to be the best , for ware and performance.

Do I have to order a specific model of them? or are all brake pads interchangeable between models and brands?

 

[jackamo]

Do I have to order a specific model of them? or are all brake pads interchangeable between models and brands?

These

 

[djbobski]

These

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Do you have a link?

 

[jackamo]

Do you have a link?

No sorry , just do a Google search as you'll find them priced differently.
I use BikeHut a lot they tend to always have stock .

 

[djbobski]

I'm guessing I need to buy 2 sets?

 

[djbobski]

No sorry , just do a Google search as you'll find them priced differently.
I use BikeHut a lot they tend to always have stock .

I'm not sure what term to use to search for them.

 

[jackamo]

I'm guessing I need to buy 2 sets?

Yes

 

[djbobski]

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[Pedec]

E-bike tuner will have a chip for your motor. Just e-mail them what you have for motor.

 

[jackamo]

E-bike tuner will have a chip for your motor. Just e-mail them what you have for motor.

Don't think there's one currently for the X control unit, but I might be wrong as it was a while ago I was looking for a Volspeed for mine and there was only one for A display unit .

 

[Pedec]

I think they do. The Volspeed 3 worked great in my PW-st for 2200km so far.

 

[tommosan]

Shame these chips are so much £££. Is the only benefit to de-restrict the top speed?

 

[jackamo]

I think they do. The Volspeed 3 worked great in my PW-st for 2200km so far.

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I got mine from 2 wheel empire over a year ago , they weren't available then for X control then .

 

[jackamo]

Shame these chips are so much £££. Is the only benefit to de-restrict the top speed?

No they make the ebike motor work better across the board . Boost is better and the flow when you ease off continues, there's no slow drag . You hardly loose any performance from the battery ether.

 

[djbobski]

Any recommendations for front and rear mudguards for tarmac/road use?

Also looking at getting some slick/semi slick tyres for it. What width tyre would look least weird?

 

[djbobski]

Excuse all of the novice questions...

When I search for speedbox 3.1 on amazon, the only result is:

Amazon.co.uk

or on bikeinn:

Speedbox Giant 3.1 Ride Control Speedbox, Silver | Bikeinn

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They look different. Which is correct?

 

[djbobski]

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