POLL: Do you want to be able to derestrict your Amflow PL?

[dimitrin]

My sentiments are the restriction should cut in at 28mph, not 20mph.
When riding some popular jump lines, a speed over 20mph is needed to clear the gap. Having the restriction kick in right when you need a little extra speed, and instead it feels like your pedaling through sand is a little disconcerting at a minimum.
Usually, on regular trail rides, it is a non-issue as I do not have a need to accelerate quickly above 20mph. And because of the 20mph restriction there are times I can out ride a pedal-assist bike while on my acoustic bike.
So, in my experience, it doesn't make sense for the cut off to be below 28mph, as there are riders that can routinely excede 20mph on their acoustic bikes.

 

[Polar]

"The new California law removes the word “continuous” from the regulation, meaning motors that are capable of briefly exceeding the 750W motor (i.e. most 750W motors), will now fall outside of electric bicycle regulations."

Does the new California law make Amflow illegal to import/buy and use?

 

[Doomanic]

When riding some popular jump lines, a speed over 20mph is needed to clear the gap.

How do people on neebs clear these jumps?

 

[Weeksy]

My sentiments are the restriction should cut in at 28mph, not 20mph.
When riding some popular jump lines, a speed over 20mph is needed to clear the gap. Having the restriction kick in right when you need a little extra speed, and instead it feels like your pedaling through sand is a little disconcerting at a minimum.
Usually, on regular trail rides, it is a non-issue as I do not have a need to accelerate quickly above 20mph. And because of the 20mph restriction there are times I can out ride a pedal-assist bike while on my acoustic bike.
So, in my experience, it doesn't make sense for the cut off to be below 28mph, as there are riders that can routinely excede 20mph on their acoustic bikes.

You have to remember why the legislation/laws exist, they don't exist for MTBers, they exist because selfish idiots would ride in towns and cities at 28mph in that world and be dangerous and cause accidents. Sure a manual bike CAN hit 28mph in towns, but it's harder without the assistance. You've also got to be a dedicated rider to do so really. With a derestricted MTB like that you can find a complete novice able to hit 28mph and wipe out a person or 2 in a city.
It may affect MTBers in a jumping context, but it's safe to say the people writing the laws have NEVER taken into consideration a run into a gap jump when debating speed limits
Is it fair, possibly not... but it's realistic

 

[dimitrin]

How do people on neebs clear these jumps?

I dont know, what is a neeb?

 

[Polar]

I dont know, what is a neeb?

It depends who you ask

 

[hsdrggr]

I derestricted my levo, I have no private land. It was for everyday use. I'll do the same once they release something for the amflow but expecting the manufacturer to make it available is a stretch. The only time I miss going past 25 is when I'm riding to the trails, once I'm there I don't even notice.

Hopefully you are out of warranty. It’s fairly evident that the Brose motors can’t handle much abuse. Specialized has been warranting gen1 & gen2 motors in large quantities. Gen3 not so much. But their software does datalog so if you’ve derestricted your Levo and submit for warranty they will deny it.

 

[iXi]

Hopefully you are out of warranty. It’s fairly evident that the Brose motors can’t handle much abuse. Specialized has been warranting gen1 & gen2 motors in large quantities. Gen3 not so much. But their software does datalog so if you’ve derestricted your Levo and submit for warranty they will deny it.

All good I got 2.5yrs out of it and just sold it. The new buyer bought it derestricted and was under no illusions there was no warranty but I sold it for a sharp price so he factored that in.

Even with mine derestricted I never thrashed the motor, rarely rode in boost etc