Orbea Rise Hydro H10 just arrived...

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Just arrived at the Studio.

Bang on 20KG with Fox 36 Factory upgrade in XL, 540Wh battery.

 

[Tubby G]

Brilliant. So you have both the alloy & carbon Rise now and I presume a video comparing both on climbs, ride quality and range is on its way ?

 

[Flatsix66]

Can't wait for your reveiw!

 

[Zimmerframe]

It's just like xmas every day for you !

Obviously the big question .. is it Girthy ...

 

[aarfeldt]

There seems to be some confusion regarding the OEM fork (website vs PDF).
Is it Fox, RS or Bomber ?

 

[hdqboss]

Looks like a Fox to me

 

[GMLS]

MMM not long had my M20 carbon Rise and loving it. Although not keen on the colour options for the H range and prefer the smooth lines of carbon, those welds are pretty neat and overall, looks a great package to be honest

 

[Mikerb]

So now with a bigger battery and c 20kg in weight why still stick to a 60nm power output?? It would add no additional weight to up their version of the EP8 to 85nm since it would only be a software change. I dont understand the rationale of this bike. Now if the power output was switchable ( via a phone app) between 60nm and 85nm with range being significantly different between the 2 options..........this bike would be unique.

 

[Pdoz]

Yeah, give us an orbea conform.

Every other bike has 85nm, too many whatevers and comes in at 25 kg.....why would anyone build a lighter, leaner, lively bike that needs riders to spin cranks a little faster?

 

[Mikerb]

Yeah, give us an orbea conform.

Every other bike has 85nm, too many whatevers and comes in at 25 kg.....why would anyone build a lighter, leaner, lively bike that needs riders to spin cranks a little faster?

Still light and nimble at 25% heavier compared to its carbon sibling with smaller battery??
Add some more puncture resistant tyres and...........

 

[volts]

So now with a bigger battery and c 20kg in weight why still stick to a 60nm power output?? It would add no additional weight to up their version of the EP8 to 85nm since it would only be a software change. I dont understand the rationale of this bike. Now if the power output was switchable ( via a phone app) between 60nm and 85nm with range being significantly different between the 2 options..........this bike would be unique.

it's quite easy to do yourself. just use ST unlock and you have 85nm no problems.

btw, those weld looks awesome, almost too pretty to be on a bike in this price range. These bikes will sell out in absolutely no time. It hits all the marks.

 

[Mikerb]

it's quite easy to do yourself. just use ST unlock and you have 85nm no problems.

OK but I do not understand why Orbea could not have have made that a customer option. I am not knocking the bike...actually quite interested...just saying I do not understand the logic compared to the 16kg Orbea. Lets see what Rob identifies.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Still light and nimble at 25% heavier compared to its carbon sibling with smaller battery??
Add some more puncture resistant tyres and...........

Look at it another way, its a 20KG ebike with 150mm / 140mm travel, Fox 36 Fork, with a 540Wh battery, that's 60% more powerful than a Levo SL with a much bigger battery, for £6k.

The Rise is already a massively popular ebike, and no doubt this Aluminium model will sell out, especially as the entry level sits at £4.5k ish.

 

[R120]

I don’t think the power is an issue - in the real world that’s enough for any EMTB restricted to EU/US regs

 

[Mikerb]

Look at it another way, its a 20KG ebike with 150mm / 140mm travel, Fox 36 Fork, with a 540Wh battery, that's 60% more powerful than a Levo SL with a much bigger battery, for £6k.

The Rise is already a massively popular ebike, and no doubt this Aluminium model will sell out, especially as the entry level sits at £4.5k ish.

A novel idea for your test on it Rob. You are pretty young and fit...............so also get an OAP to try it out

 

[Kyle_AZ_eMTB]

Look at it another way, its a 20KG ebike with 150mm / 140mm travel, Fox 36 Fork, with a 540Wh battery, that's 60% more powerful than a Levo SL with a much bigger battery, for £6k.

The Rise is already a massively popular ebike, and no doubt this Aluminium model will sell out, especially as the entry level sits at £4.5k ish.

Ordered the only XL I could find. Base spec model but at $5300 USD delivered that's a steal. Was, or am, waiting on my 2022 Cube Stereo Hybrid that's ordered. Maybe this will be an addition rather than a "filler" ebike.

 

[Mikerb]

A novel idea for your test on it Rob. You are pretty young and fit...............so also get an OAP to try it out

afterthought:.............just for clarity there is no comma between "pretty" and "young"

 

[Captain45]

Pretty sweet Rob. Nice to have an alloy option in the lineup. I think the price point is very welcomed lately as almost all other manufacturers are north of $8k even for an alloy version these days (spesh Im looking at you). This Alloy frame looks seamless too, man for aluminum that is one nice looking top tube/head tube/down tube/seat tube assembly, usually they are full of welds.

I love carbon but Im always a bit too conscience of damaging a frame on rocks and such. I have more peace of mind with an alloy frame. With that said Im probaby going to still go with carbon rise this spring for weight reasons. Ive been tossing around a 50lb levo for years now and want a switch up.

 

[rokyluk]

it's quite easy to do yourself. just use ST unlock and you have 85nm no problems.

btw, those weld looks awesome, almost too pretty to be on a bike in this price range. These bikes will sell out in absolutely no time. It hits all the marks.

Welds are not polished some people think. They put filler over the welds thats the whole story. Some Occam owner sandblasted his bike and was really dissapoonted when he found out that there is actually just filler over the welds..
But yes its looks nice.

 

[NorthernBloke]

I think that Orbea have been a bit sneaky changing the battery and extender though.
They have either decided that the original battery was too small or don't want customers retro fitting the new battery to their M versions.
Personally I think they don't want the H to come anywhere near the weight of the M as it will just hit the sales of the carbon bike.
The M will be the superlight weight version for those that can afford it. The H will be heavier but offer more range, a more utility version.
Cheapest makes most sense as the higher priced ones creep into carbon territory. If you can afford £6k for the H10 then pushing to £8k for the Team isn't that much of a push if you are buying it in instalments (as many do currently with 0% offers).
Even the cheapest is still not cheap, lets face it, and for £4.5k there will be a lot of better equipped if heavier bikes out there.

 

[sbfitness]

it's quite easy to do yourself. just use ST unlock and you have 85nm no problems.

btw, those weld looks awesome, almost too pretty to be on a bike in this price range. These bikes will sell out in absolutely no time. It hits all the marks.

What is ST unlock?

 

[hdqboss]

What is ST unlock?

ST Unlocker

ST Unlocker - unleash the power of your E-Bike motor!

www.stunlocker.com

 

[Randy]

Finally a bike brand has released a bike without the new boat anchor shimano internal battery. 540wh, range extender option and 20kg is mint… other brands take note!

 

[1oldfart]

In a few months it will end up an over priced shitty piece to the Great 2023 Unbeatable . . .
I have a ton of fun without the big invoice.

 

[ReVolt]

With pedals and proper tyres real world will be 21-21.5kg but still very good. On the 85nm thing it may not be quite so simple, people who have reset the nm to 85 via Emax or Stunlocker feel they’re not getting that full power in the real world and in particular that there’s a power drop when running off the battery extender. Obviously this hasn’t been lab checked but there’s enough anecdotal to suggest that there may be some truth in this...Some are hoping that the 540wh mapping might help. If so the derestricters will fancy the H versions...

 

[Kevlasultanpus]

So now with a bigger battery and c 20kg in weight why still stick to a 60nm power output?? It would add no additional weight to up their version of the EP8 to 85nm since it would only be a software change. I dont understand the rationale of this bike. Now if the power output was switchable ( via a phone app) between 60nm and 85nm with range being significantly different between the 2 options..........this bike would be unique.

Yes 20kg does not 16kg make

 

[Mikerb]

With pedals and proper tyres real world will be 21-21.5kg but still very good. On the 85nm thing it may not be quite so simple, people who have reset the nm to 85 via Emax or Stunlocker feel they’re not getting that full power in the real world and in particular that there’s a power drop when running off the battery extender. Obviously this hasn’t been lab checked but there’s enough anecdotal to suggest that there may be some truth in this...Some are hoping that the 540wh mapping might help. If so the derestricters will fancy the H versions...

maybe the RS version of the EP8 is not just different software? Perhaps the actual motor windings are smaller and whilst it is still 250w nominal its max is lower than the 75/85 nm version?

 

[johnf0246]

Just arrived at the Studio.

Bang on 20KG with Fox 36 Factory upgrade in XL, 540Wh battery.

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What does it weigh with pedals? Does it have the tires you would would use in your normal riding?

 

[Chicane]

What does it weigh with pedals? Does it have the tires you would would use in your normal riding?

Someone posted an H30 Medium at 45lbs with flat pedals, his own fork, stem and bars. When you say normal riding tires. DHR 2 2.4 WT are only 960g. There not far off the stock Dissector weight or the Rekon at around 880g I believe. We’re talking about 1/4 pound heavier if you run both DHR 2 3c Max Terra tires.

 

[Kevlasultanpus]

I watched a US vid and they were spruking a cost saving of around 25% for the alloy with the 500 plus battery... so i suggest it will run out the door