New Fantic Fat Sport Integra - More Info Added

[BMP]

I just purchased this bike from Upway at a great price. 1950 with a 100 off coupon code seemed to be a no brainer. I'm looking forward to getting miles in this winter on a more capable bike. The only things I have done so far are a Quad Lock phone mount and will go tubeless soon. One thing that I noticed immediately was how quiet the Brose T-Alu motor is. It is way quiter than my Bosch Gen 4 CX Perf. Also the Fantic app is actually pretty decent and the display is much better than the Purion that my Gen 2 Rail has. Overall I am super happy with the purchase. It will be getting some Renthal bars and an Apex stem soon.

Brad

12-21-24:
Tubeless set up is done. The shop used the stock rim strip and added rim tape and Stans Tubeless schrader valves. The wheels were already drilled oversized. The presta valve tubes that came stock worked OK, but the hole in the rim was way too larger for a presta tubeless stem. They hold pressure rock steady with the Orange Seal sealant.

1-6-25:
Added RaceFace large Chester pedals. They fit my snow boots perfect with tons of grip.

 

[Stihldog]

Wow! Looks clean. The bike looks great also.

 

[JB01245]

Just got one of the last ones they had, too good of a deal to pass up! Did you have to anything special to get the Fantic app to connect to the bike? I am not having any luck.

 

[BMP]

Just got one of the last ones they had, too good of a deal to pass up! Did you have to anything special to get the Fantic app to connect to the bike? I am not having any luck.

I see they are all gone now. Must have sold the last ones quickly.

You have to establish a connection on the handlebar display on the bike to the app.

Brad

 

[JB01245]

Yeah, they had 3 left on Christmas morning and they were all gone by that afternoon. They reduced the price by $200 and they had sent me a post card with a discount code for $150, tried it and it worked also! Got it down to $1600/$1800 w/taxes and shipping. Unbelievable.

Thanks for the tip. I had not played around too much with the display settings. All connected now.

 

[BMP]

Yeah, they had 3 left on Christmas morning and they were all gone by that afternoon. They reduced the price by $200 and they had sent me a post card with a discount code for $150, tried it and it worked also! Got it down to $1600/$1800 w/taxes and shipping. Unbelievable.

Thanks for the tip. I had not played around too much with the display settings. All connected now.

That is so awesome! What a crazy buy! The Fantic app is very useable and works well.

Brad

 

[JB01245]

Been riding/feeling out the bike the last couple of days on my local bike path route (12 miles roundtrip). No real snow currently on the Denver Front Range and not wanting to travel up I-70. Am really impressed with the build quality as I had never heard of Fantic. Figured being Italian it would be good. I did find something that I was not overly concerned about but did add some extra protection to. Under the down tube there is a plastic cable router fastened to the frame. I had removed the battery and was admiring the cable routing clips underneath battery and reached up inside towards the headtube and was surprised at the 2 sharp screws used to secure the cable routing piece to the downtube. I decided to add some plastic protectors on top of those screws from rubbing on cables routed nearby. I am wanting to convert to tubeless but have not found any information about the rims if they are tubeless ready and have popped the tire off the rim yet.



*** just saw your edit/addition to your original post about going tubeless.

 

[BMP]

Been riding/feeling out the bike the last couple of days on my local bike path route (12 miles roundtrip). No real snow currently on the Denver Front Range and not wanting to travel up I-70. Am really impressed with the build quality as I had never heard of Fantic. Figured being Italian it would be good. I did find something that I was not overly concerned about but did add some extra protection to. Under the down tube there is a plastic cable router fastened to the frame. I had removed the battery and was admiring the cable routing clips underneath battery and reached up inside towards the headtube and was surprised at the 2 sharp screws used to secure the cable routing piece to the downtube. I decided to add some plastic protectors on top of those screws from rubbing on cables routed nearby. I am wanting to convert to tubeless but have not found any information about the rims if they are tubeless ready and have popped the tire off the rim yet.

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*** just saw your edit/addition to your original post about going tubeless.

Nice catch on the screws!

My LBS did my tubeless set up. They seemed to think it was fine doing Stans tubeless schrader valves, 80mm Stans rim tape, and Orange Seal with the stock Jumbo Jim tires. Both of mine sealed up fine. They thought it was a little funny that the rims are already drilled out for the larger schrader valve size but used a presta valve tube stock.

Brad

 

[E&NonEinCO]

I've been riding my Fantic Fat for the past two winter seasons in the Colorado front range - I ride on trails that have mostly snow. On the rare occasion that I ride in the dry season, I use the wheelset (80mm rim) that came with the bike While I got a good deal, all you guys got a GREAT deal. I thought about buying one as a spare for that low price but I already have a spare motor and extra batteries. The frame will fit the fabled Vee Snowshoe 2XL tire (120 TPI) - I'm running that tire, tubeless, on a 90mm rim. My first 2XL tire fit with no problems. The second tire required some edge knob trimming. ALSO - I had to move the chainring outwards over 0.5" so the chain wouldn't rub on the tire sidewall. It still rubbed when in the lowest gear so I adjusted my derailleur stop so it wouldn't go into that gear. The Brose motor is nearly bulletproof - but not water proof. There is a company that created and sells a seal for the motor that I bought and installed. The motor is very serviceable. My previous efat had this motor and I have several thousand snow miles on them. This T Alu motor has the same form factor as the S Alu motor. The S Alu has a little more torque. The only way to tell the difference is by the part number label on the case. To minimize moisture entering the frame and the motor area, I seal the gap around the battery with electrical tape. As far as range, worst case, I'll get 10 miles when breaking trail in deep (>6"), heavy snow. I'll get 30 miles when riding on more snow packed conditions. Happy trails, the bike and motor are awesome.

 

[BMP]

I've been riding my Fantic Fat for the past two winter seasons in the Colorado front range - I ride on trails that have mostly snow. On the rare occasion that I ride in the dry season, I use the wheelset (80mm rim) that came with the bike While I got a good deal, all you guys got a GREAT deal. I thought about buying one as a spare for that low price but I already have a spare motor and extra batteries. The frame will fit the fabled Vee Snowshoe 2XL tire (120 TPI) - I'm running that tire, tubeless, on a 90mm rim. My first 2XL tire fit with no problems. The second tire required some edge knob trimming. ALSO - I had to move the chainring outwards over 0.5" so the chain wouldn't rub on the tire sidewall. It still rubbed when in the lowest gear so I adjusted my derailleur stop so it wouldn't go into that gear. The Brose motor is nearly bulletproof - but not water proof. There is a company that created and sells a seal for the motor that I bought and installed. The motor is very serviceable. My previous efat had this motor and I have several thousand snow miles on them. This T Alu motor has the same form factor as the S Alu motor. The S Alu has a little more torque. The only way to tell the difference is by the part number label on the case. To minimize moisture entering the frame and the motor area, I seal the gap around the battery with electrical tape. As far as range, worst case, I'll get 10 miles when breaking trail in deep (>6"), heavy snow. I'll get 30 miles when riding on more snow packed conditions. Happy trails, the bike and motor are awesome.

Great information! Thanks!

Brad

 

[JB01245]

I've been riding my Fantic Fat for the past two winter seasons in the Colorado front range - I ride on trails that have mostly snow. On the rare occasion that I ride in the dry season, I use the wheelset (80mm rim) that came with the bike While I got a good deal, all you guys got a GREAT deal. I thought about buying one as a spare for that low price but I already have a spare motor and extra batteries. The frame will fit the fabled Vee Snowshoe 2XL tire (120 TPI) - I'm running that tire, tubeless, on a 90mm rim. My first 2XL tire fit with no problems. The second tire required some edge knob trimming. ALSO - I had to move the chainring outwards over 0.5" so the chain wouldn't rub on the tire sidewall. It still rubbed when in the lowest gear so I adjusted my derailleur stop so it wouldn't go into that gear. The Brose motor is nearly bulletproof - but not water proof. There is a company that created and sells a seal for the motor that I bought and installed. The motor is very serviceable. My previous efat had this motor and I have several thousand snow miles on them. This T Alu motor has the same form factor as the S Alu motor. The S Alu has a little more torque. The only way to tell the difference is by the part number label on the case. To minimize moisture entering the frame and the motor area, I seal the gap around the battery with electrical tape. As far as range, worst case, I'll get 10 miles when breaking trail in deep (>6"), heavy snow. I'll get 30 miles when riding on more snow packed conditions. Happy trails, the bike and motor are awesome.

So awesome to hear some long range feedback. Looking forward to some e fatbiking. Where along the front range is your favorite?

Thanks a lot for the mileage experience.

 

[E&NonEinCO]

JB01245 - This time of year I ride every weekend, usually both days and I always ride trails with the most snow. A fellow efat rider sometimes joins me. I don't want to publicize any trails online. Send me a PM with your contact information and I will show you first hand, the closest snowy trails to ride.

Mileage update - 10 miles in heavy snow >6" deep - the worst case, and a rare scenario in CO. When the snow is light and fluffy, I will get more than 20 miles in >6" deep snow - this is more typical for a fresh snowfall in CO. Your mileage may vary as rider input and power level are a key factors. I still ride non powered fat tire, mtb and road bikes.

 

[JB01245]

JB01245 - This time of year I ride every weekend, usually both days and I always ride trails with the most snow. A fellow efat rider sometimes joins me. I don't want to publicize any trails online. Send me a PM with your contact information and I will show you first hand, the closest snowy trails to ride.

Mileage update - 10 miles in heavy snow >6" deep - the worst case, and a rare scenario in CO. When the snow is light and fluffy, I will get more than 20 miles in >6" deep snow - this is more typical for a fresh snowfall in CO. Your mileage may vary as rider input and power level are a key factors. I still ride non powered fat tire, mtb and road bikes.

Sounds like a plan, give me a couple weeks as I just ordered a new wheelset (cheap Sun Ringle Mulefut 80 rims with 4.8 Maxxis FBF and FBR tires). I am up in the Thornton area and have done most of my fatbiking at places like Aldefer/3 Sisters, Elk Meadow, North Table Mountain and Buffalo Creek. Have always struggled in fresh POW as only had 3" tires on my previous fat bike and still learning about using super low pressures.

Edit *** After rereading my post I thought the 3" tire size did not sound right. Went and checked and my tires on my other fat bike are 4" but still seem super small compared to 4.8"-5" tires.

 

[E&NonEinCO]

JB01245 - I've been riding fat in the snow since 2012 when a bought a Specialized Fatboy. I can show you some tips for riding in snow. Most peoples difficulties in snow are usually due to too high tire pressure and not the best choice of tires. Soft and deep snow requires only a couple of PSI of air: As a visual, your tire sidewall will be half its normal height.

The tires for riding fat bikes in the snow are typically 4.8" wide and include Surly Bud and Lou combo, the 2XL which provides the most flotation although it fits on very few bikes. Dillinger 5's and Johnny 5's are also good snow tires.

My "Snow Beast" upgrades - 90mm rims, Bud 4.8" in front, Vee 2XL 5.05" in rear, suspension dropper seatpost, Ergon SM e-mtn saddle, XT brakes, Ergon bar ends, rear rack and panniers, custom cradle mount for extra battery, Manitou Mastodon fork (will fit 2XL tire). On the rare occasions that I ride the bike in the summer, I put the original wheelset on with the 80mm rims and 4" tires.

I included a picture of my front chain ring setup in case anyone is considering adding a 2XL tire and needs to move their chainline. The other picture is from last year on Cottonwood Pass. The road is closed and it is groomed for snow sport travel. On the day of the picture I rode a 52 mile loop (I had my spare battery) that included the pass and other connecting snowmobile trails.

 

[BMP]

So most any 4.8 tire will work with the Bluto fork? The rear has tons of clearance. Love the set ups!

Brad