New 150RS owner

[phutureproof]

Collected today from the bike shop and have only zipped about the back of my house for half an hour.
In a word.
“wow”.
I had no idea they had the kick that they do, even in emtb mode.
First impressions are very good.

a couple of things I need to get used to: the cut off of the motor at 16mph. It does feel like the brakes are applied slightly. Easy to hit that on a road/pavement but likely not that noticeable on a proper ride I imagine.
Also the weight will take time to get used to. Not for riding but just for manhandling the bike around the place. For example I regularly grab to bars and pull my bike onto its back wheel to navigate past my car on the driveway. Doing the same with this bike is obviously a lot trickier than a a 26” wheel hardtail ?.
But what a bike!!

 

[phutureproof]

And the other thing I was needlessly concerned about before testing ANY eMTB was the motor noise. It is soooo quiet. Much much better than expected.

 

[The Hodge]

Glad your first impressions are good ..
Just a quick point when you said " even in emtb mode" depending on your " effort " that you put in that mode switches between "tour "and " turbo" ..to match your cadence ..so its quite feasible that you were in turbo..
Ive got the 160rs and its capability continues to surprise and amaze me ..
Enjoy & have fun ..?

 

[phutureproof]

Just a quick point when you said " even in emtb mode" depending on your " effort " that you put in that mode switches between "tour "and " turbo" ..to match your cadence ..so its quite feasible that you were in turbo..

Good point. That's probably it. I need to get it out on a proper ride, but weather and my work are not playing ball right now! Painful.

 

[Hobo Mikey]

Glad you like your new bike, you made a good choice. The cut off point you will get used to that’s normal. When your out on the trails you won’t notice it so much. To get it up on back wheel to get past something I roll it forward and pull the bars back with the back brake on, comes up easy. Enjoy your new ride.

 

[phutureproof]

To get it up on back wheel to get past something I roll it forward and pull the bars back with the back brake on, comes up easy. Enjoy your new ride.

Yep - just something to get used to. An XL bike with 29" wheels and over double the weight of my other bike will take some new muscle memory (and muscle!).

 

[phutureproof]

And given the weather these days...I'm gonna need some mudguards!!!

 

[The Hodge]

And given the weather these days...I'm gonna need some mudguards!!!

Some what..mudg..(try again)...some mudgu...( one more time )..some mudgua..
Nah .fk it ..simply does not register ..what are these things you talk of ...?

 

[The EMF]

Some what..mudg..(try again)...some mudgu...( one more time )..some mudgua..
Nah .fk it ..simply does not register ..what are these things you talk of ...?

As ugly as they are my mudhugger rear is, it’s going back on when the clocks go back…….contrary to popular belief , I hate sitting on a seat covered in crap and having to clean my gear after every ride after all that the worst of what winter riding throws up…..nah compared to being wet, sleck and covered in filthy farm animal shite I’m sticking with the mudguard ?………….

 

[The EMF]

And given the weather these days...I'm gonna need some mudguards!!!

Good choice of Ebike they’re brilliant. I ride an E-150 RS ??

 

[Tribey]

As ugly as they are my mudhugger rear is, it’s going back on when the clocks go back…….contrary to popular belief , I hate sitting on a seat covered in crap and having to clean my gear after every ride after all that the worst of what winter riding throws up…..nah compared to being wet, sleck and covered in filthy farm animal shite I’m sticking with the mudguard ?………….

Not even bothered taking mine off for summer!

 

[phutureproof]

With work and holidays I’ve only managed two very modest local rides so far. Generally speaking, it’s awesome. Looking forward to taking it further afield with some proper hills (not much around Oxford!).
The one concern I do have is the cut out of the motor at 16.6mph. Once I hit that (which is most of the time in the relative flat trails), it feels like treacle or that the brake is on. I understand that it is a heavy bike, but I’m just very surprised at the feeling if it is only caused by the greater weight of the bike and a small amount of drag from the motor.
I know that when I go with my mates on their analog bikes, they’ll leave me for dust on all but the downhills and uphills (anything closer to level or even modest hills and I’d be quicker myself on an analogue).
it does make me start to wonder about de-restriction. I am not a speed demon, but I perhaps do like to travel faster than ‘average’.

 

[The Hodge]

Its your warranty ..?

 

[phutureproof]

Yep.

 

[E150rob]

With work and holidays I’ve only managed two very modest local rides so far. Generally speaking, it’s awesome. Looking forward to taking it further afield with some proper hills (not much around Oxford!).
The one concern I do have is the cut out of the motor at 16.6mph. Once I hit that (which is most of the time in the relative flat trails), it feels like treacle or that the brake is on. I understand that it is a heavy bike, but I’m just very surprised at the feeling if it is only caused by the greater weight of the bike and a small amount of drag from the motor.
I know that when I go with my mates on their analog bikes, they’ll leave me for dust on all but the downhills and uphills (anything closer to level or even modest hills and I’d be quicker myself on an analogue).
it does make me start to wonder about de-restriction. I am not a speed demon, but I perhaps do like to travel faster than ‘average’.

Hey up, I've recently got my self a 2022 e150 rs v2 and I'm having the exact same thoughts. Everyone's told me that I wouldn't notice the motor cut off once on the trails but after two good rides out Its really quite annoying when the trail levels out and your stuck at 16mph. Speed box 3 in coming soon I think.

 

[The Hodge]

You may want to check out the " breaking my Vitus ESonnet for parts" in General section ...but like I said its your warranty you are gambling with..

 

[phutureproof]

Hey up, I've recently got my self a 2022 e150 rs v2 and I'm having the exact same thoughts. Everyone's told me that I wouldn't notice the motor cut off once on the trails but after two good rides out Its really quite annoying when the trail levels out and your stuck at 16mph. Speed box 3 in coming soon I think.

Have you spoken to your bike shop about it? I haven’t yet, but I might give them a call.
im just really surprised that more people aren’t complaining about this. I wonder if it is the Bosch’s motor itself or the Whyte bike? I might investigate other bikes that use the same motor andpost a thread to see if they feel the same.

 

[The Hodge]

You would be wasting your time....there are loads of threads about this subject ..never really found it too much of a problem ..all of my friends on normal mtbs would have a problem staying in touch ( overall ) if I decided to " trot on " ..

 

[phutureproof]

Maybe. I was expecting a certain amount of friction from all the reviews and threads I have read, but I had no idea it would be quite so 'treacly'.

 

[E150rob]

Just typical governments ridiculous safety rules I think mate. You will find all e bikes are the same unless de ristricted obviously. I know your taking a risk by fitting a tuning box but it's all about smiles per miles and it's worth the risk for me. It won't be the end of the world if it ever needed a new motor.

 

[phutureproof]

Just digging around on info for this motor, and I find this "The motor has almost no internal resistance, which should eliminate the draggy feel of the previous model when pedalling above the 25km/h cut-off. "
on this page: Bosch E-bike Systems 2020 – The Gen 4 Motor is no longer a rumour!

To me, the friction isn't eliminated at all, though I have no previous motor to compare it to.

 

[The Hodge]

Tbh mate ..most of us prefer to concentrate on the positives..and just accept that ( as its a heavy bike) when the motor assist cuts out we have a bit of work to do ...

 

[E150rob]

I think it's probably a bit of an illusion when your so used to the feel of the motor boosting you then it feels very slow when it actually cuts off. I've done a few short rides with it Completley turned off and was supprised how easy it actually felt.

 

[The EMF]

I find my my E-150RS quite a good bike to pedal without motor assistance. I know it’s heavy but it’s also well balanced without noticeable pedal Bob due to the excellent design geometry and suspension. The motor disengagement at 16 mph is hardly noticeable, just quiet.
Mind you when gravity works against you the motor cuts in thankfully.
I would rather pedal the Whyte than my Mondraker Kieser I had back in the day.

 

[Jamze]

I know that when I go with my mates on their analog bikes, they’ll leave me for dust on all but the downhills and uphills

Have you ridden with mates yet? You might be underestimating how quick your e150 is. My e160 will cruise along at 20mph without too much effort on the flat. When out on our group ride, the motor is off or in ECO. But it's a fairly leisurely pace. A few times I've split off with another mate (hardtail, runs marathons) for a blast and he struggles to keep up at places like Swinley. Less about top speed, it's more about the acceleration.

So I'm happy with keeping my Bosch stock.

 

[Penttithefinn]

With work and holidays I’ve only managed two very modest local rides so far. Generally speaking, it’s awesome. Looking forward to taking it further afield with some proper hills (not much around Oxford!).
The one concern I do have is the cut out of the motor at 16.6mph. Once I hit that (which is most of the time in the relative flat trails), it feels like treacle or that the brake is on. I understand that it is a heavy bike, but I’m just very surprised at the feeling if it is only caused by the greater weight of the bike and a small amount of drag from the motor.
I know that when I go with my mates on their analog bikes, they’ll leave me for dust on all but the downhills and uphills (anything closer to level or even modest hills and I’d be quicker myself on an analogue).
it does make me start to wonder about de-restriction. I am not a speed demon, but I perhaps do like to travel faster than ‘average’.

I would say you are riding the wrong trails. Around the twisties and over roots and bumps, I accelerate out leaving analogue bikes gasping for breath, on smooth flowing trails, or down hill I struggle to keep up, but if you have an ebike to chase Strava I think you have bought it for the wrong reason.

 

[phutureproof]

First proper ride today. So happy with this bike. My concerns of motor cut off have dissolved. Loving it.

 

[EebStrider]

The easiest way to get it on the back wheel is by using walk mode.