TLDR: Can some kind soul with a M129 (2022) Spectral:On tell me the correct orientation and order of the washers that go in there?
The story so far:
I wanted to check the bearings for wear and did not realize that there are washers between the chainstay part and the bearings in the frame. They happily proceeded to spill onto my totally not messy at all floor. I am in contact with the support for 3 straight days now and they cannot figure out what goes were and say I have added parts from another bike. My other bike nearby is a steel hardtail with no hardware like that in any way. I have a non motorized Spectral from 2018, but neither would any parts fit nor has this bike moved in any way from the closet it is stored in for years.
There is apparently indeed a brass washer that is not supposed to be there, but also one of the seal rings was installed wrongly. However I have the bike for a month and am not in the habit of buying bike parts from other canyon bikes and mix them for my entertainment. I recently had the bike at a canyon contracted shop for a warranty replacement cable harness. There should be no reason to take off the main pivot and quite frankly I simply do not care who dunnit. The main pivot axle that I took out still had the brass ring and a ring seal pressed on the head. But there is nothing wrong with the main pivot, I just want to be sure I put the correct pieces at the correct places.
If you're not asleep yet here is a pic. 1 and 2 were flush against the head. 1 is not supposed to be there and is in this kit, which is from the rocker mounting. 2 is a rubber/metal seal ring and has (in my opinion) no business on the head of the pivot axle.
After a day of deciphering the hyroglyphs on the explosion drawing they sent me I came across this section refering to parts in the kit that correspond to my stuff. 27 being the seal ring and 38 being the washer with the "A" on it. Not confusingly at all the axle 79 and the nut 81 and screw 24 are in a different section of the exploding view. Naturally the kit is not to be found online anywhere, but there is a main pivot kit containing two thirds of the kit below and, why not, the metal sleeve that goes between the two bearings. The number 37 is not shown or visible anywhere neither by its part name nor part number EP1394-02. Attentive readers may now point out that I could simply cross reference it with a kit that includes those seal rings. Yes that is true, but alas, that kit contains the part but it is called Sealing 61902 28x15x0.9. Catchy name, but useless.
The most sense to me would be that 27 is actually what they call 37 and someone made a typo. That would mean that 28 is the bearing (I never took that out because there is no need, its fine), 27 is my number 2 from above and 3 is the washer 38, confusingly painted to look like the 27 in the explosion drawing. Now, I think I made my case and I hope someone can just unscrew the damn thing and take a look for my sanity. Fun details include there is only a 1x ring seal listed in the mystery kit. By my estimates pressing a rubber seal against a bearing with a conical washer makes not very much sense and finally why do I have to do that detective work? Shouldn't they know what's what and tell me? I admit it would sound weird to me that a guy reports what I reported, but why would I make this up? I already said i was a dummy and let the stuff drop out so what could I possibly intent? Havin a laugh? Trust me, I have enough of that. You should see my fat old ass ride
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The story so far:
I wanted to check the bearings for wear and did not realize that there are washers between the chainstay part and the bearings in the frame. They happily proceeded to spill onto my totally not messy at all floor. I am in contact with the support for 3 straight days now and they cannot figure out what goes were and say I have added parts from another bike. My other bike nearby is a steel hardtail with no hardware like that in any way. I have a non motorized Spectral from 2018, but neither would any parts fit nor has this bike moved in any way from the closet it is stored in for years.
There is apparently indeed a brass washer that is not supposed to be there, but also one of the seal rings was installed wrongly. However I have the bike for a month and am not in the habit of buying bike parts from other canyon bikes and mix them for my entertainment. I recently had the bike at a canyon contracted shop for a warranty replacement cable harness. There should be no reason to take off the main pivot and quite frankly I simply do not care who dunnit. The main pivot axle that I took out still had the brass ring and a ring seal pressed on the head. But there is nothing wrong with the main pivot, I just want to be sure I put the correct pieces at the correct places.
If you're not asleep yet here is a pic. 1 and 2 were flush against the head. 1 is not supposed to be there and is in this kit, which is from the rocker mounting. 2 is a rubber/metal seal ring and has (in my opinion) no business on the head of the pivot axle.
After a day of deciphering the hyroglyphs on the explosion drawing they sent me I came across this section refering to parts in the kit that correspond to my stuff. 27 being the seal ring and 38 being the washer with the "A" on it. Not confusingly at all the axle 79 and the nut 81 and screw 24 are in a different section of the exploding view. Naturally the kit is not to be found online anywhere, but there is a main pivot kit containing two thirds of the kit below and, why not, the metal sleeve that goes between the two bearings. The number 37 is not shown or visible anywhere neither by its part name nor part number EP1394-02. Attentive readers may now point out that I could simply cross reference it with a kit that includes those seal rings. Yes that is true, but alas, that kit contains the part but it is called Sealing 61902 28x15x0.9. Catchy name, but useless.
The most sense to me would be that 27 is actually what they call 37 and someone made a typo. That would mean that 28 is the bearing (I never took that out because there is no need, its fine), 27 is my number 2 from above and 3 is the washer 38, confusingly painted to look like the 27 in the explosion drawing. Now, I think I made my case and I hope someone can just unscrew the damn thing and take a look for my sanity. Fun details include there is only a 1x ring seal listed in the mystery kit. By my estimates pressing a rubber seal against a bearing with a conical washer makes not very much sense and finally why do I have to do that detective work? Shouldn't they know what's what and tell me? I admit it would sound weird to me that a guy reports what I reported, but why would I make this up? I already said i was a dummy and let the stuff drop out so what could I possibly intent? Havin a laugh? Trust me, I have enough of that. You should see my fat old ass ride
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