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Couchy

Couchy

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Hello all. Currently have a trek rail which I really like. Looking for a longer travel more DH bike but would like the bosch motor. Something like the Specialized kenevo or canyon torque:eek:n. Any recommendations with bosch gen4 in them ?
 
Paulquattro

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Alexbn921 said:
pole volima
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If your in the like it camp
Personally i cant stand the look of it as it is definitely a Marmite bike :)

But on a more serious note i would worry about the cost of warranty returns if it were to happen and need to be returned unless of course your local ish to them .
 
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irie

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Couchy said:
Hello all. Currently have a trek rail which I really like. Looking for a longer travel more DH bike but would like the bosch motor. Something like the Specialized kenevo or canyon torque:eek:n. Any recommendations with bosch gen4 in them ?
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Welcome Couchy, nice to see you here! 👍
 

Mikerb

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I doubt it. I have the e180 rs but a 2020 model rather than the latest but its my bike of choice if it is rough and steep.
 
jbrown15

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BAMBAMODA said:
I like that. Wonder what the weight is. My Voima at 200/190 is about 57lbs. Dual crown ohlins is a good 800grams over a SC. But who counts grams on a 57lb bike……

And yes it’s fugly and the rear end flexes too much side to side.
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Troydon told me depending on the build spec you could get it down to 50lbs with a 180mm Zeb. Which is pretty good.
 
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Wilbur said:
Pity Crestline can’t do frame only. Something to do with export duty on parts I believe
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I know, I was going to grab a frame when he had some but there was some miscommunication and I missed out. Completely bummed about that but I'm not willing to pay what the going price is now for one.

I was really looking forward to getting one too 🙁
 
irie

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Couchy said:
Hello all. Currently have a trek rail which I really like. Looking for a longer travel more DH bike but would like the bosch motor. Something like the Specialized kenevo or canyon torque:eek:n. Any recommendations with bosch gen4 in them ?
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You can certainly fit 170mm forks to your Rail (5, 2022 I think?) and I think that 180's may also fit.

When I installed my Ohlins coil shock I deflated my 57.5mm air shock and measured the rear clearance. IIRC there was (just) enough clearance to increase shock stroke to maximum 65mm. Given the rear ratio of ~2.6 (?) this increase (of 7.5mm) would increase rear wheel travel by 7.5*2.6=19.5mm. In other words, about the same as the front 20mm increase in travel. I'm ignoring sag obviously. Personally I'm sticking with F160mm/R150mm because for me that works well all round although I might in the future raise the rear a little to increase BB height to reduce pedal strikes. Also, when I bought the ZEB Ultimate A2 160mm I knew the travel can be increased to 170, 180, or 190mm.

Edit: the Ohlins TTX22m.2 shock has 3x2.5mm spacers to reduce stroke from 65mm to 57.5mm so increasing stroke is very simple.
 
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Jimbo Vills

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Paris Doo said:
New Focus Sam2? Do you have any link to the photos? I have seen a video from EMBN and there is a carbon frame in the back but I can't tell if it is the new Sam2.
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No, my LBS had a brochure. It had the new Sam and Jam2. 750 battery on the bosch system with the top tube display. the Jam looked very similar to the new cube / orbea. It was only a quick look, but he thinks it will be announced soon. Looked good though!
 

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No, my LBS had a brochure. It had the new Sam and Jam2. 750 battery on the bosch system with the top tube display. the Jam looked very similar to the new cube / orbea. It was only a quick look, but he thinks it will be announced soon. Looked good though!
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I have the current Sam2 and it is a great bike (I also got it for a great price) but I wonder about the new one (both looks & cost).
 
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I ended up ordering a Crestline 7550 for March.
Extremely capable,downhill oriented, Bosch race motor.adjustable geo,travel and reach.
I know a couple folks who are switching over from ‘22 Kenevo’s.
I had a new Orbea wild on order(full 29’er,160/170 travel) but switched to the Crestline as it’s a more capable bike for me.and coming from a 22 Levo I prefer the Mullet option.
The next batch is in May and available for pre order.
 
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Get a 2021 or 2020 Kenevo with 4 year motor warranty…el cheap…around £4-£4.5k then spend on getting a Zeb 180/29 up front and shove a 29 in back or 27 if mullet is desired and bingo…best handling DH and all mountain bike out there with best warranty out there …

Proper BB height for a long travel 180/180 bike so no smashing cranks on tek climbs
 
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Tankboy

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Pole Vomia is the only real proper candidate - selling mine ATM with Fox 40's, its a well thought through DH bike you can easily ride all day, just fantastic on the rough stuff

For Sale (BIKE) - 2022 Pole Voima K3 - Large/XL: £8500

Bike / Product Year: 2022 Manufacturer: Pole Model: Voima Size K3 - Large/XL Asking Price: £8500 Location Weymouth, Dorset, UK Description Pole Voima, Fox40, AXS, Mavic, Burgtec, Bosch 750wh, Praxxis, Hope, SQlab, 5yr Warranty Frame – Pole Voima K3, Gold with factory fitted protection tape...
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wakeboatdad

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Hi, I was in the same boat. I had a trek, love the bosch motor, and wanted longer travel and slacker angles. I narrowed it down to the Scott Ransom eRide 920 and the new 2023 Orbea Wild. Both are great bikes, you can't go wrong with either. I ended up with the Scott Ransom eRide 920 due to the lower price and availability. You would be happy with either!
 

KnollyBro

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jooles said:
Get a 2021 or 2020 Kenevo with 4 year motor warranty…el cheap…around £4-£4.5k then spend on getting a Zeb 180/29 up front and shove a 29 in back or 27 if mullet is desired and bingo…best handling DH and all mountain bike out there with best warranty out there …

Proper BB height for a long travel 180/180 bike so no smashing cranks on tek climbs
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Does Specialized still offer a 4 year motor warranty? I used to have a 2020 Kenevo with a Fox Factory 29r 180mm but found it to be too heavy on the DH to be considered the best handling bike available. The Crestline looks good without having to upgrade a key components.
 
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jooles

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Tbh mine is 23kg with 700wh battery and is superb…not a porker and lively on trail even compared to my 16kg Geometron
plus being lanky 500 reach on the CL is a bit short for me now I’m used to bikes that actually fit…
 
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