so first make sure your app is updated, then go to tune, and at the top you will see a profiles button[/QUOTE
Sorted nice one, didn’t know that existed
Cheers
your avoiding the issueWhy would you be in anything more than a low pedal assist on the flat
Say WHAT?yeah, but some time you can loop the heck out on practically flat surfaces........ not exactly a natural experience...
exactlyMy 2019 S-Works Levo is a couple weeks old and is doing it. At first, it only happened once or twice during a ride. Tonight it happened enough that I went looking for a thread about it on emtbforums. Same symptom, a solid 2-3 seconds of power after I stop pedaling in trail & turbo modes. In one situation, my feet were not on the pedals and the motor was pushing the bike forward with the pedals spinning. At first I thought it was a feature....now I'm leaning towards flaw.
100%, i have this issue, the motor is a drag now, and never used to be, but much more annoyingly the torque sensor is super poor, what happens is when you pedal hard then lightly back off but just barely and i mean barely keep the cranks rotating, the motor power remains at 100% and does not back off. We had a Spesh demo day in my town last weekends and none of the 2018 bikes had this issue (all the rep had was 2018 kenevos)My wife and I recently updated our 2018 Levo’s to 2020 Levo Experts (After the extended range) and my bike has developed the issue of the motor running on when pedaling stopped.
Having 2 bikes of the same year & model has allowed me to accurately compare the operation of the bikes.
The technical info from Specialized indicates the motor should cut out within 200 milli-seconds, which is almost instantly, and this is the case with my wife’s bike. Mine runs for about ½ a chainring revolution, and occasionally a little longer.
Additionally, when I turn the power off, my bike has significant drag when turning the cranks; whereas my wife’s bike is totally free and pedals like a slightly heavier un-assisted bike.
My bike has been back to the shop and checked, and they advised that they couldn’t identify any faults.
I have checked to ensure latest Firmware is installed, the drive train is clean and lubricated, tried the bike in all 3 modes and different gears on the cassette and that the freehub has no drag; so believe I have eliminated issues outside the motor – yet the issue remains.
It appears however either the cadence, and or torque, within the motor is being sensed is not operating correctly, so I am hoping Specialized come up with a fix quickly.
It is obvious that those with a pedal on issue do have a defective motor and if your lbs or Specialized won’t accept it, you all have to put a bit more pressure on them.
I had this problem on my levo 2019( it stopped 2 or 3s after I stopped to pedal instead Of 0,2s).
It was a defective motor freehub. (sometimes the chainring turned backward when I pedaled backward, as if freehub stick)
It need to change the motor.
You'd think within the Spesh Empire this would be logged as a known issue/fault and documented for tech's in shops to identify/prove and the steps to be taken to fix it ?? Or doesn't it work like that ? Have they not actually embraced support and fault logging for the "Turbo" range ? Is it all just down to the experience of an individual in a shop ?
"Hello, my bike seems to run on for 2 seconds .. Ah, that sounds like the 27b problem, let me run the tests for it to confirm .. yes yes, it's that, we need to swap your motor out - glad you came in before you had a panic moment and cycled off the edge of a cliff, they're so much harder to change when you have to scrape dried blood and bone fragments out of the bolt heads"
If this was a car and certain ones had a fault where it carried on accelerating for 2 or 3 seconds when you came off the gas there would be chaos and outrage !
Not certain but hasn't that been removed in recent versions? I can adjust mine though I'm on TCU V1.7.0 & 10.23.1 firmware. In any case I ride with low PP in sketchy technical terrain and that helps toohave you tried lowering the acceleration value in MC or Blevo?
not sure but its in my firmware on my 2019 levo and adjusting it down stopped my bike running onNot certain but hasn't that been removed in recent versions? I can adjust mine though I'm on TCU V1.7.0 & 10.23.1 firmware. In any case I ride with low PP in sketchy technical terrain and that helps too
Yes and I have no run on with my 2019 Levo ( acceleration and shuttle set to zero). If the condition affects some but not all surely there is a chance with so many variable settings that a certain combination causes a problem? If so a firmware fix could resolve it. It certainly needs to be reported to the lbs but a fix maybe available for those affected meanwhile by for example turning acceleration down to zero.It is previously mentioned that the cut-off time from you stop peddling is 200 milliseconds and no settings should change that. Basically from the torque sensor registers no force applied it should take no longer than a 1/5 of a second. If the run on is longer than that something is clearly defective and should be handled accordingly.
On my 2018 Levo there is absolutely no run-on, it stops immediately.
Karsten
I would hazard a guess that the time quoted is the time it takes the transistor to react to a voltage switch sent from a sensor. It most likely does not refer to the speed of decay of the motor which I reckon would depend on the amps it is drawing. These motors do not have a brake like for example a high end drill......that would make the bike un rideable.It is previously mentioned that the cut-off time from you stop peddling is 200 milliseconds and no settings should change that. Basically from the torque sensor registers no force applied it should take no longer than a 1/5 of a second. If the run on is longer than that something is clearly defective and should be handled accordingly.
On my 2018 Levo there is absolutely no run-on, it stops immediately.
Karsten
Good points but again, on my 1.3 motor I can push as hard as I can in turbo and as soon as I stop peddling the motor stops giving support instantly. My point is that no matter settings, there should not be any run-on at all.I would hazard a guess that the time quoted is the time it takes the transistor to react to a voltage switch sent from a sensor. It most likely does not refer to the speed of decay of the motor which I reckon would depend on the amps it is drawing. These motors do not have a brake like for example a high end drill......that would make the bike un rideable.
WOW!!!Here's my story.
The 1st week of ownership was bliss. Moving from a 2016 to the 2019 was such a major upgrade.
The 2nd week was a little concerning. The power continuation was getting more noticeable. I came to the forum and commented.
The 3rd week was when the problem was serious enough to cause an accident and I returned the bike. I was given a new motor, although I would have preferred a new bike as I don't like $12k toys that have been crashed.
The new motor seems OK, I've only got 1 ride on it.
Click this for a video you can watch.
Make sure you go all the way to 35 seconds in the video, that's when it gets fun.
Same here - I’m taking the bike into LBS on Monday.Here's my story.
The 1st week of ownership was bliss. Moving from a 2016 to the 2019 was such a major upgrade.
The 2nd week was a little concerning. The power continuation was getting more noticeable. I came to the forum and commented.
The 3rd week was when the problem was serious enough to cause an accident and I returned the bike. I was given a new motor, although I would have preferred a new bike as I don't like $12k toys that have been crashed.
The new motor seems OK, I've only got 1 ride on it.
Click this for a video you can watch.
Make sure you go all the way to 35 seconds in the video, that's when it gets fun.
Make sure you go all the way to 35 seconds in the video, that's when it gets fun.
Omg is that the new 2021 enduro I was taking about earlier?? Telepathy on sworks only.
I knew it!
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