There’s a US price list in the new thread, the Pro was $11,900 I think.
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 - Discussion Thread for 8th April launch
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There’s a US price list in the new thread, the Pro was $11,900 I think.
BAh30
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New Levo 4 s-works
Power1tobe
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Maybe not the bike for you? But 14000 is the high end and not the low end. Also, throwing the weights of bikes around is meaningless with out comparing specs and components.
you serious ?
Power1tobe
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got to be a troll... scroll feature as it was literally at the top of this page
Polar
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The price difference on G4 comp and comp carbon is less of what it used to be on G3
Tmbjorkman
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Given this release of this modular battery full powered levo, what’s speshy’s plan on an SL update? Guessing/hoping that could get a bump in power/torque and come in 20 kilos or possibly sub 20? Or would one just build this out with a 36, faster tires, lighter battery at lower power output?
singletrackminded
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On the other forum, a posted price list photo suggests that the S-works version is $15,500 USD. My LBS says somewhere in the 13.5k range?
That photo is ancient history, it goes way back to the old forum
See page 1 of this forum
Why does the Levo S-Works with 600Wh weigh about 1Kg more than the Vala XX?
Is it just because the battery is removable on the Specialized?
And the increased weight associated with that?
This topic seriously need some IQ test before posting
Maybe this is that new power button?
etoni
E*POWAH Elite
12amp fast charger only with SWorks?
PRO is fitted with Bike Yoke Revive
Like usual I would say but we never saw Gen4 Pro spec…
freddok
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Take a look between pages 4 or 5 in this thread... Maybe a little later...
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I 2nd that, saw it also.
None. There's nothing revolutionary about this bike. What is remarkable however, is Spesh's pie in the sky price strategy given the state of the bike industry...
I’ve only seen those in Berkshire cycles but sounds interestingIf the Revolutionary feature is having a main battery and a secondary battery option in frame, that's not new,
The Fulgur Mula had that 4 years ago.
Fulgur Mula, 20KG Full Fat ebike
Interesting bike I saw today at Berkshire Cycles. By Fulgur, an Italian brand: 20KG listed weight • Full Fat 90Nm motor by Polini - 160mm @extremeshox ERA Fork - 160mm rear travel with @extremeshox Storia Coil V3 - Modular internal battery 504Wh and you can add another 125Wh internal extender...www.emtbforums.com
I remember this bike now it is actually pretty solid, the Polini motor is suposedly pretty good also and completely repairable, unfortunately the brand it's a small player and hardly any shops if any have the bike for sale at , no local support is no go, at least for me.
Greeno
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Post #295 response.
Industry standard for 52v systems is 14 cells in series, 48v = 13 cells, and the gen 3 levo which I have is 36v and has 10 cells in series per group.
Has nothing to do with motor load.
Different discharge rates on cells and capacity (ahr rating ) is how they are classified.
Higher voltage equals lower amperage for the same wattage output.
Highest rating for 18650 cells is 3.5ahr.
Highest rating for 21700 cells with the “new” Samsung 58E cell is 5.5ahr rating, previous max for their 50Ecell was 5ahr. They’re probably going to continuously rate it at 5.8 ahr but testing doesn’t support this but marketing is what it is. Just sayin.
As far as the 840w battery not being possible I gotta disagree.
840 ÷ by 48v = 17.5
Using 1850 cells rated at 3.5ahr would need 13s5p which is 75 cells at 48gr = 3600 grams.
Using 21700 cells rated at 5.8 ahr rating would use 13s3p which are 39 cells at 68.7gr = 2679.3grams.
Battery manufacturers a lot of times round “up” when rating their products.
I have an aftermarket extender battery ( trailwatts ) on my Levo and it’s rated at 252w meaning it’s a 10s2p configuration but I can only use it in parallel with the main battery and it measures in at 3”x7.5” and fits where the water bottle cage is and that’s with the shock strut. So eliminating the strut should allow a 280w battery to fit easily.
Not sure about your guys standard 4a chargers which is common but mine gets hotter than sh-t when charging. Supposedly that’s normal.
Looking at the pics of the “new” charger with the fast charge capability it doesn’t look
Iike there is a cooling fan or anything to help disapate the additional heat from the increased charging current. So that will be interesting to see how they handle that issue.
Industry standard for 52v systems is 14 cells in series, 48v = 13 cells, and the gen 3 levo which I have is 36v and has 10 cells in series per group.
Has nothing to do with motor load.
Different discharge rates on cells and capacity (ahr rating ) is how they are classified.
Higher voltage equals lower amperage for the same wattage output.
Highest rating for 18650 cells is 3.5ahr.
Highest rating for 21700 cells with the “new” Samsung 58E cell is 5.5ahr rating, previous max for their 50Ecell was 5ahr. They’re probably going to continuously rate it at 5.8 ahr but testing doesn’t support this but marketing is what it is. Just sayin.
As far as the 840w battery not being possible I gotta disagree.
840 ÷ by 48v = 17.5
Using 1850 cells rated at 3.5ahr would need 13s5p which is 75 cells at 48gr = 3600 grams.
Using 21700 cells rated at 5.8 ahr rating would use 13s3p which are 39 cells at 68.7gr = 2679.3grams.
Battery manufacturers a lot of times round “up” when rating their products.
I have an aftermarket extender battery ( trailwatts ) on my Levo and it’s rated at 252w meaning it’s a 10s2p configuration but I can only use it in parallel with the main battery and it measures in at 3”x7.5” and fits where the water bottle cage is and that’s with the shock strut. So eliminating the strut should allow a 280w battery to fit easily.
Not sure about your guys standard 4a chargers which is common but mine gets hotter than sh-t when charging. Supposedly that’s normal.
Looking at the pics of the “new” charger with the fast charge capability it doesn’t look
Iike there is a cooling fan or anything to help disapate the additional heat from the increased charging current. So that will be interesting to see how they handle that issue.
My salesman told me you can "make an SL by using the 280 battery only" eand you get all 3 batteries with S-Works order
singletrackminded
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Wow, that would be amazing! I don't see the alternate 600w, or range extender listed on the bike spec sheet for S-Works, so I am skeptical of your salesman. Also, the range extender is 240W not 280W. I hope he is right.
Tmbjorkman
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I think if one wanted to go the SL route and just use the 280 - wouldn’t you want the smaller motor not in the works? It’s “20% smaller”. Does “smaller” = lighter? (Insert spinal tap “but does it go to 11?” here).
I think 20% smaller is just the brose peak (or spesh 3.1 version) compared to the mag s
Power1tobe
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If this is true... that would be amazing... but not holding my breathe.. let you know Monday
Geniusbiker
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That´s what I was told, too: it´s possible to ride it with the REX only.
3 batteries could be Specialized Mexico pricing - which has not been revealed yet
Yes but SL is 320wh battery integrated, not fitted on bottle cage nuts. And SL should be still lighter by +/-2 kg
Power1tobe
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Deadpool2e
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I was told you dont get the extender with the sworks (like you did on the sl)
