Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 - Discussion Thread for 8th April launch
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Precisamos de fotos do outro lado da bicicleta!
It saddens me that we actually have to do this on every page .... Page 10 Thread re-cap ..
As per our last re-cap for those that didn't tune in, you can click on the images to enlarge.
Or, you know, like maybe, possibly, read the thread ???? Who knows what else you might find out.
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As per our last re-cap for those that didn't tune in, you can click on the images to enlarge.
Or, you know, like maybe, possibly, read the thread ???? Who knows what else you might find out.
One does not mix S-Works and Linkglide, it is unnatural until proper marketing fixes it
Zim started another thread for Images and Specs, please post them in there, or check in there for new ones.
Discussion can continue in this thread. Maybe ?? that will stop the endless duplication ? Ok, no chance ....
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Both threads are stickies, so easy to find in the Spesh section at the top.
Discussion can continue in this thread. Maybe ?? that will stop the endless duplication ? Ok, no chance ....
Levo Gen 4 - Levo Gen4 Pre-release Specs and Images
Ok guys, lets try this instead to try and avoid the Duplication ????? Because it's soooooooo boring ! ONLY post new images or Specifications in this thread. No chat !!! Do that in the other thread. Until the 8th Anyway :) @Moderator Please make a sticky and enforce !? S-Works Spec...
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Both threads are stickies, so easy to find in the Spesh section at the top.
So it looks pretty much the same but with a different outer facing. The Drive3 motor is also pre-production so things will change.
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I find that my last S works was much more tuneable than what the DJI is.
Polar
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Will the G3 crankarm fit G4 and is it possible to take off the S1000 transmission and mount it on G3?
If the Revolutionary feature is having a main battery and a secondary battery option in frame, that's not new,
The Fulgur Mula had that 4 years ago.
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The Fulgur Mula had that 4 years ago.
Fulgur Mula, 20KG Full Fat ebike
Interesting bike I saw today at Berkshire Cycles. By Fulgur, an Italian brand: 20KG listed weight • Full Fat 90Nm motor by Polini - 160mm @extremeshox ERA Fork - 160mm rear travel with @extremeshox Storia Coil V3 - Modular internal battery 504Wh and you can add another 125Wh internal extender...
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Even with the latest Software on the DJI?
That possibility is definitely possible to implement from a technical standpoint, although from an electrical standpoint the power the extender can safely continuously deliver is much less, so it would work only with reduced power output.
Georgedukesa
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singletrackminded
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To me it appears that the third lug on the Sworks has been blacked out in the picture. I agree the 101nm to 111nm difference is most likely software.
etoni
E*POWAH Elite
23.5kg, is that a joke, for 14000euro? This wight you can buy for 8000euro, or dji for 6500euro 21kg give me a reason where this is justified to buy?
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It's made of solid gold !!!
Levo Gen 4 - Levo Gen4 Pre-release Specs and Images
Ok guys, lets try this instead to try and avoid the Duplication ????? Because it's soooooooo boring ! ONLY post new images or Specifications in this thread. No chat !!! Do that in the other thread. @Moderator Please make a sticky and enforce !? S-Works Spec: Expert Spec: Comp Spec ...
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*23.68kg for the S-Works. Not sure how much lighter you can make a full powered bike with a 840wh removable battery tbh.
singletrackminded
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So, we have established that the range extender is external and 240 W. Can we confirm that when paired with the main battery of 600W or 800W, the added power from the extender is drained simutaneously w/ main battery (as is case with the present Levo SL), meaning that the 50 % power restriction of the Extender (only) application would not apply?
The new Levo downtube reminds me on my all newer downtubes with Bosch new 800Wh packs.
For example the downtube on my Reign is cca 500mm long(the battery opening)on an M model. The battery size of the 800Wh pack is 440 x 85 x 78 mm.
For example the Dji 800Wh battery that is built thiner but longer compared to Bosch is 561mm long, it's probably one of the longest batteries I have seen.
For example The Bosch 800Wh pack has
dimensions of 430 x 75 x 81 mm
and the almost square shape(cell stack) seems to me that it could fit pretty nice into the Levo downtube so I will take it for reference.
Let's do some math:
Length 430mm/800Wh = 0,5375mm/Wh
Levo:
840Wh x 0,5375mm/Wh = 451,5mm
280Wh x 0,5375mm/Wh = 150,5mm
Together that makes 602mm of length, if we add say cca 13mm for connectors between packs, that adds up to 615mm of combined length.
The downtube of the Levo would need at least 615mm of open space to just fit the two packs, aand only tthen after the motor space and steerer tube space of the fram comes into play, don't think it's possible.
I believe that only the smaller battery and extender can live simultaneously in the downtube.
The extender looks to be more rounded like a bottle cage type mount. Where as the main 840wh battery looks to have some intrinsic rails and maybe a connection latch.
The 600wh battery appears to have a built in structure to make it mount in the same space as the 840wh - so no space for a range extender with it.
If the extender was supposed to be in the down tube as well, I can’t see why you would need such a long cable. You’d assume it be on a quick connector.
It's depends on what motor(load) is used, the exact voltage on wich it's is rated.
I did elaborate the difference between 13S and 14S in my post #819 in December 2024 in the previous forum and will not repeat it here.
Just a recap, electric systems have losses and to negate them it's good to go a bit higher with the voltage. Yes I agree it could be a 13S system, but then the 840Wh battery pack mentioned in the specs isn't physically possible.
Capacity is calculated at rated cell voltage that is between 3,6V and 3,7V for 21700 cells.
13S3P = 39cells × 5,5Ah × 3,65V = 783Wh
14S3P = 42cells × 5,5Ah x 3,65V = 843Wh
Hope this clears thighs a bit
I heard it's actually partly mind controlled and partly by the new Sram handsfree controller posted earlier
MTB-WALES
Member
So what revolutionary theories are not dispelled and still possible?
ah1
Member
Your wishes/theory would've been awesome - and no need for big batt+extender. If they split small batt + extender and gave all these options, IMO that would be a game changer. Still waiting to see what that game changer is - 4 more days and 110 more pages to go!So much about my wishes and theory
singletrackminded
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Any confirmation on US pricing? I've yet to see a spec sheet for the Pro Model?
