Levo Gen 4 2024 Rumours... And assorted random chat ....


emtbeast

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Hey guys, to break the thread a bit, there is a new test of the Amflow on YT that maybe interesting for emtb power junkies or others depends from what perspective you look at it...

It's a full-out boost power up/down ride on a single trail untill empty.

Distance 44,1 km,
1123m altitude gain,
average speed of 12,4km/h,
800Wh battery.

It looks like the bike really grinds uphill, but the battery consumption is wild, something I have not seen anywhere before, cca 71Wh/100m of altitude gain.

For comparison a Bosch CX in Turbo eats cca 40Wh/100m.


The first question I get here is how long can the drivetrain hold out something like this...

What's your thoughts 🤔
 

Phil M

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Nov 25, 2021
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Hey guys, to break the thread a bit, there is a new test of the Amflow on YT that maybe interesting for emtb power junkies or others depends from what perspective you look at it...

It's a full-out boost power up/down ride on a single trail untill empty.

Distance 44,1 km,
1123m altitude gain,
average speed of 12,4km/h,
800Wh battery.

It looks like the bike really grinds uphill, but the battery consumption is wild, something I have not seen anywhere before, cca 71Wh/100m of altitude gain.

For comparison a Bosch CX in Turbo eats cca 40Wh/100m.


The first question I get here is how long can the drivetrain hold out something like this...

What's your thoughts 🤔
No such thing as free power!

Use the power and you’ll rinse the battery. It would be nice to see how much they both use at say a constant 50nm but it sounds like the DJI motor isn’t particularly efficient.
 

GDAS

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Are we expecting a new Kenevo at the same time as the Gen 4 Levo? I seem to remember reading something about a Long Travel version of the Levo, maybe to replace the Kenevo. Anyone know anything?
 

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Gentlemen, Ladies,

I think it's fairly safe to say if you've read all 56 pages of this thread, mainly about a bike which isn't even for sale yet, which is already on it's second revision. Pretty much anything conversation wise is ok and certainly not deviating from the theme !

Just no Gen4/4B pics please - unless they're already leaked elsewhere.

Thankyou for your understanding, now continue the fairy tales.
 

DylanJM

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Sep 19, 2024
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Gentlemen, Ladies,

I think it's fairly safe to say if you've read all 56 pages of this thread, mainly about a bike which isn't even for sale yet, which is already on it's second revision. Pretty much anything conversation wise is ok and certainly not deviating from the theme !

Just no Gen4/4B pics please - unless they're already leaked elsewhere.

Thankyou for your understanding, now continue the fairy tales.
Gen4/4B? Hmmm....
 

Rando_12345

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Gen4/4B? Hmmm....
Come on guys, don't leak pictures of the gen4 and especially not the 4B!

Keep those nasty pics of the 844Wh batteries to yourselves, delete those snaps of the 110Nm motor, no technical drawings of the 150mm and 170mm rear linkage! Also no videos of the s-works being weighed on scale that reads 20.6kg! Try to just forget about the 300Wh extender. You can say the geo numbers, but they need to be jumbled up, like a 63.2 degree reach, or a 445mm seattube angle.

Whatever you do, don't make the mods come back and confirm/drop more info for us!
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
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Has anyone bought a new bike instead of waiting for the gen 4 levo? And if so what did you buy.
Bought a Cube one77, I wasn't really going to get the Levo at launch unless they announced the best bike ever (could happen!) and they had a well specced 6-7k version (won't happen). So I got a hold-over bike for 2025 and we'll aim for a dream bike in 2026.
 

mustclime

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Since 2018 I owned the 1st Gen Kenevo, I switched to a Levo then to a Kenevo SL and back to full power Levo gen 3. I didn’t want to wait and I wanted something different so I ordered a Crestline S180!!!
I can’t wait to get it.
Crestline also known as an over priced Santa Cruz bullet. Fun fact, you know why Santa Cruz went to a FRS suspension design on the vala? Because the drive units size make it impossible to put the lower link low enough to prevent brake jack in a VPP design. Knowing this makes you wonder why so many riders cream their baggies for the VPP design on the Crestline. Look at a Bronson or Megatower lower link location, on an e bike, that pivot in inside the drive unit. When all is said and done, there are really only three suspension designs that work for e bikes, FRS , DW links and high pivots with an idler.
 

gbcoke

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Crestline also known as an over priced Santa Cruz bullet. Fun fact, you know why Santa Cruz went to a FRS suspension design on the vala? Because the drive units size make it impossible to put the lower link low enough to prevent brake jack in a VPP design. Knowing this makes you wonder why so many riders cream their baggies for the VPP design on the Crestline. Look at a Bronson or Megatower lower link location, on an e bike, that pivot in inside the drive unit. When all is said and done, there are really only three suspension designs that work for e bikes, FRS , DW links and high pivots with an idler.
Overpriced ? Their kits are actually inline with most bikes in the market ,even more so if you consider they are such a small brand.
They offer Bosch gen 5 with all battery options (removable),top tube screen,high quality frame,good suspension design,modular frame with many travel options and 29 or Mullet ...
If anything,SC should have made a Crestline and not the other way around :)
The Valla (And soon to be released Bullit) is a good bike but OH so boring...
 

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