Levo Gen 4 2024 Rumours... And assorted random chat ....

[Ou812]

All this extra available torque is going to lead to an increased rate of chain & cassette wear for those who ride hard.

i am interested to see which of the big players is first to solve this via belt drive or gearbox Etc

drivetrain suppliers must love this power war.

Here you go, these guys are in Edinburgh. It can be run with a belt or chain drive and they’ve got a few big brands doing testing with it now.

Intradrive

Edinburgh-based startup revolutionizing e-mobility with innovative, durable, and repairable e-bike powertrains.

www.intradrive.co.uk

 

[Chicane]

In the USA it’s going to lead to Karens getting more trails closed to emtbs.

About 70% of the trails I ride in Orange County, Ca are already prohibited to ride Ebikes, but at least 50-60% of the riders are on Ebikes. The majority of the time the Rangers look the other way and don’t hassle us, for many reasons.

Surprising a big local State park is now allowing e-bikes as of last month.

The only clowns that are going to get trails closed to ALL bikes are the dummies riding throttle assist emotos, like surron’s.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

11 speed linkglide is the best for ebbs ive had the same cassette on for a year now and do alot of riding

I put that on my Levo comp before I sold it and was the best combo I have ridden.... once my Transmission cassette is blown I can get a complete XT link glide groups for cheaper than a GX transmission cassette.

 

[Citylad77]

If the Launch date is not until April, then I would not expect to see the press rides before this time.

 

[Ribinrobin]

Dont forget this new Gen 4 was already to go last year, then the DJI came out and it got pulled. Been told this morning from local store its not bum on a seat until early Q2, Spz still have a lot of current bikes to move, and they are selling at the discount prices.

Same thing happen with the SL2, other companys caught up. I remember the "whisper quiet" being a big part of the marketing after the TQ motor had dropped to such amazing reviews of its motor noise.

 

[Greeno]

Been riding e bikes here in San Diego for 7 yrs or so and have never been told to get off ANY trail I was on either by Rangers or whoever.
I did get told by a lady while I was unloading my bike that all e bikes weren’t legal anywhere, anytime so I got that going for me too.
Im trying to think but maybe twice I got the stick eye from some guy on a regular pedal bike but most are chill. If your being a douche you’ll get sounded for sure but that goes for an analog bike to.

As far as Spec. dealers that I have seen running discounts on the current bikes they have in stock that’s a big no Vanna.
24/25 turbo levo Carbon comp with a 700w battery will still run ya 9k plus tax and you better have your own pedals cause they don’t come with em.

Picked up my 23’ turbo levo comp carbon last summer from a guy who put 23 miles on it and paid $5,200.00 and then dropped some more coin on some upgrades and I would have a hard time walking away from this bike. But hey I said that about the bike I had previous to this one.

 

[galaga187]

Worth sticking to the end where he mentions the state of bike reviews - that are “influencers” doing adverts that look like reviews. No doubt this new bike will have many when it arrives.

 

[DylanJM]

Worth sticking to the end where he mentions the state of bike reviews - that are “influencers” doing adverts that look like reviews. No doubt this new bike will have many when it arrives.

I mean this is the same for all the main review websites/magazines also. Especially when it comes to the big brands.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

I don't think you should making your purchasing decision off any Youtuber. .... Test ride the bike yourself.

 

[Bndit]

I don't think you should making your purchasing decision off any Youtuber. .... Test ride the bike yourself.

I kind of agree on this on youtubers, but real journalists reviews I have trusted. And done my decisions based on reviews done by real journalists and my own prefrences and never rode any bike I purchased Year ago I ordered Bullit and have done 1800km on it and it is just as good as reviews said, just love it.

 

[Biano44]

Worth sticking to the end where he mentions the state of bike reviews - that are “influencers” doing adverts that look like reviews. No doubt this new bike will have many when it arrives.

Sounds like a narcissist who is not getting what he considers to be a fair slice of the cake to me.
Maybe he’s ‘borrowed’ the idea of calling out other YouTubers from JayEmm on cars.

 

[galaga187]

I don't think you should making your purchasing decision off any Youtuber. .... Test ride the bike yourself.

I test rode about 10 e-bikes at various events back in 2017/2018 the little bit of internet chatter suggested Specialised were launching a new version of the levo bike I had tried so I waited for that. The Rocky Mountain I wanted to try failed at the test event in FOD Uk. I bought my next Gen 3 unseen and happy with that but things more competitive now.

 

[oettam20]

Same thing happen with the SL2, other companys caught up. I remember the "whisper quiet" being a big part of the marketing after the TQ motor had dropped to such amazing reviews of its motor noise.

Indeed, I hope they don’t repeat what happened with the Levo SL Gen 2, where they were caught unprepared by the arrival of new competitors, primarily Fazua. They delayed the launch of the Levo SL, but it feels like they just made a small software tweak and updated their marketing materials to appear more competitive on paper than the new SL was originally designed to be.

In reality, the market quickly realized that the electronics were outdated compared to the new benchmarks, and now you can find Levo SLs at 40-50% discounts. Let's hope they don’t make the same mistake with the Levo Full Power Gen 4.

 

[Bndit]

I kind of agree on this on youtubers, but real journalists reviews I have trusted. And done my decisions based on reviews done by real journalists and my own prefrences and never rode any bike I purchased Year ago I ordered Bullit and have done 1800km on it and it is just as good as reviews said, just love it.

I have to add that I had also gen2 Levo which I bought same way

 

[Ou812]

Maybe they’re waiting on these to be released….

 

[emtbeast]

Maybe they’re waiting on these to be released….

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Heard rumors these were in the works, are they ready for a release?

 

[xtraman122]

Sounds like a narcissist who is not getting what he considers to be a fair slice of the cake to me.
Maybe he’s ‘borrowed’ the idea of calling out other YouTubers from JayEmm on cars.

I’m sure he’s jealous, but the current state of “influencers” and the marketing trends across industries of using them is pretty sad. You might as well consider them contracted marketing people for most of these companies. They’re often compensated in some way, sign lengthy agreements basically requiring them to only say good things about the products, and as a result are extremely biased and lacking any criticism whatsoever.

Just look at the abuse in Amazon reviews with companies including the silly “leave us a 5-star review and receive a coupon” cards in the package. Businesses have learned using the general public to be their marketing through reviews is cheaper and (used to) appears more genuine to the average consumer so they’ve completed flooded the markets with people for hire to do their advertising.

 

[sluette]

No UDH… max competitive to old SRAM X01 AXS…

 

[Ou812]

Heard rumors these were in the works, are they ready for a release?

They were supposed to already be released, I saw them being tested months ago along with the new saint brakes. The person testing them told me the end of the 2024, I’m guessing they pushed them back to release at Sea Otter instead.

 

[Ou812]

No UDH… max competitive to old SRAM X01 AXS…

I actually prefer the old AXS stuff to the transmission, it shifts a lot better IMO. I’ve been a “Shimano over SRAM” guy for years so if this shifts even remotely close to their cabled drivetrains I’ll be selling my transmission stuff. Only reason I went to SRAM in the first place was for less cables and cleaner bar setup.

 

[DylanJM]

No UDH… max competitive to old SRAM X01 AXS…

I mean maybe wait until we have details before jumping to conclusions? Just because it's not direct mount doesn't necessarily mean it won't be competitive.

 

[emtbeast]

Running an AXS Sramano setup, the only downside for an ebike is a bit fast shift, it can cause a broken chain if you miss shift a couple of gears. Have an UDH ebike but due to really mixed re-views on the t-type stuff, never really was sold on it. One reason is also that I find replacing a hanger much cheaper and I can cary a spare on my bike(always ready).
I am pretty interested how the Shimano stuff will work, and by knowing them, the lower tier won't be much different in Q than XTR but avaliable at normal prices.
Could be one of the reasons for the Spesh delay.