Let's get the best e-bike for Downhill

[Dave976]

Hi,

I come from the Alps and I hate to pedal up to the top in UK... Usually, I do just something like 10 rides and I go home, which is quite annoying...

So I want to move to an e-Bike for the following reasons:
1. Avoid the pain back on the hill
2. The bike is heavier, I just love it, it gives me more stability
3. I can ride for longer when I go on long MTB trails, not bad for some side fun
4. I can wear all the protections of this planet, and I can still make it for an entire day of riding, the second day to the recovery room in hospital though

My primary use will be Downhill, so I wonder if the double fork models are so much better than the standard enduro fork.

I identified a few bikes:
- Giant Trance X X E+ Pro 2 2021 Trance X E+ Pro 29 2 (2021) | Giant Bicycles UK (4400 pounds, but probably I'd go for a Giant Reign around 6500 pounds)
- Whyte: E-180 S (6000 pounds, this seems to be much better)
- Husqvarna Extreme Cross 10 2021 - Extreme Cross 10 2021 (impossible to get in UK)
- Fantic Fantic E-Bike - Downhill - Integra XXF 2.0 720Wh Race (I don't know much about this e-bike, but I found it there and it seems that it could be available somewhere in UK)

The main discriminant is the fork, so, do I need to push my self to find a double fork model or I could be just fine with an enduro bike?
I'd like to have the max safety when it comes to landing, so I think that the DH model is the way...

I also need an e-bike where I can remove the battery quickly every time I need to charge it.

The Giant and Whyte are available, but Husqvarna and any other model similar to that are impossible to find in UK...
Probably Fantic is available somewhere, but then it always depends from the size etc.

 

[millemille]

You can't change the battery quickly, compared to others, on the whyte.

You've missed the Focus Sam2 from your list.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

I dont own these bikes but might be worth looking at.

Downhill E-MTB | Torque:ON

Meet Canyon’s downhill e-bikes -Torque:ON! Our uncompromising gravity bikes! Industry leading powerful motors and battery technology that set the standard for what a long travel E-MTB can do. Shred:ON!

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Pole Voima Complete AXS - 29" full suspension E-bike

Voima E-bike is the ultimate enduro, park bike, long-distance trail rig, and DH bike all in one, with a Bosch drive unit and 750wh Powertube.

polebicycles.com

FOCUS SAM² | 2021 - 2022 Bosch | FOCUS Bikes

FOCUS Bikes is the leading premium brand of high end mountain bikes and road bikes with excellent quality - German Engineered for amateur athletes and professionals!

www.focus-bikes.com

 

[Mikerb]

I dont own these bikes but might be worth looking at.

Downhill E-MTB | Torque:ON

Meet Canyon’s downhill e-bikes -Torque:ON! Our uncompromising gravity bikes! Industry leading powerful motors and battery technology that set the standard for what a long travel E-MTB can do. Shred:ON!

www.canyon.com

Pole Voima Complete AXS - 29" full suspension E-bike

Voima E-bike is the ultimate enduro, park bike, long-distance trail rig, and DH bike all in one, with a Bosch drive unit and 750wh Powertube.

polebicycles.com

FOCUS SAM² | 2021 - 2022 Bosch | FOCUS Bikes

FOCUS Bikes is the leading premium brand of high end mountain bikes and road bikes with excellent quality - German Engineered for amateur athletes and professionals!

www.focus-bikes.com

If the primary objective is "downhill" I would recommend the Whyte E180.......preferably the RS rather than the S. Fox Factory 38 and Float X2 take care of the ride and Code RSC the stopping. Its 27.5 if that is what you prefer. DT Swiss hybrid wheelset/ Assegai tyres ..DD on the back EXO+ on the front. So all in nothing you need to upgrade for Alpine downhills except maybe a tyre insert on the back.

The battery takes a couple of minutes to remove/replace with the right technique, with the bike upturned and the addition of a simply made DIY strap........more importantly it it fully encased and protected in the downtube.

 

[Mcharza]

Check also Specialized Kenovo with double crown fork

 

[Tartam]

I was looking about the same thing, an emtb primary for downhill but which can be used as an all-around elsewhere. I ended up to by a Trek Rail and upgraded suspension to 180 mm front and 230x62.5 back, and I think that will do the job, not sure yet, we still have snow out on the downhill trails, but from those short rides I've tried it feels quite good. I have to try it later on proper downhill trail to be 100% sure, but Rail it's definitely a good/easy climber.
I was also very interested in Pole Voima and I just saw the one (on ENTB group on Fb) as I always imagine myself, how an ebike for downhill should look like. Maybe I will sell Rail later and go for Voima, to early to know.
You should definitely put this 2 E-Bikes on your list

 

[Alexbn921]

Pole or kenevo. The fork makes the bike

 

[Rickster]

Definitely Regin E-0 can’t beat the price point and checks everything you will ever need !

 

[Keggie]

Another bike to consider is the Haibike nduro 8 free ride
If Haibike ever release the 2022 models that is,
ohlins dh triple crown forks coil shock mt7

 

[Keggie]

 

[Dave976]

Pole or kenevo. The fork makes the bike

Thanks, but I don't see a Pole with a double fork though, or I didn't find it?
If so, how did you compare the two?

 

[Kenevieve]

In Pole Voima specs they say that it is dual crown compatible. So you should be able to use it with proper DH-fork.

 

[Dave976]

The general problem is that most of these e-bikes suggested are not available in a store... Thanks everyone so far.

 

[Dave976]

In Pole Voima specs they say that it is dual crown compatible. So you should be able to use it with proper DH-fork.

That replacement would be extremely expensive though

 

[Alexbn921]

Kenevo's are available used and then you can customize/upgrade it to the parts you want.

The pole is available as a frame only and can be built just how you like it. Used DH forks are an option too.

Nothing is in stock. Put your money down and wait just like everyone else.

IMO The Kenevo is the best big bike made. It's incredibly capable on full DH tracks and still fun on the mellow ones. Plus it gives up almost nothing in the climbing department. I can keep up with Levo's on the climbs and beat shimano/bosch bikes.

 

[thebarber]

 

[jempezen]

Officially you can't use a Kenovo on Downhill or BikePark
He's only a category 4 bike

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

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didnt know this existed, what a beast and spec for that money

 

[kbass24emtp]

Cannondale just came out with a new Moterra DH. Supposed to come out in the summer here in the states.

 

[Tekmotiv]

Top Fantic models use Ohlins DH 38 e-bike - 29" 200mm

 

[rod9301]

Haibike makes a downhill bike with bosch.
Battery is really easy to take out.

 

[michael.kozera]

have you considered just making your own DH ebike?

i made mine for WAY cheaper then buying a new one.


mine is 1800peak motor watts (bbshd, 1500w nominal) so it goes stupid fast. 1600wh battery pack so it goes crazy far. 230mm rear travel and 200mm front. and at 62lb's its not even that heavy.

total project cost ( at the time) cost me around 4g Canadian, of that 4g , 2g was the bike used.

 

[Swissrider]

Officially you can't use a Kenovo on Downhill or BikePark
He's only a category 4 bike

Who says? I use my Kenevo in various bike parks in the Alps. IMO, Kenevo is perfect for the Alps ans I have. 2018 model. Later Kenevos are even more downhill orientated. Have a look at Kenevos ridden by experts on You Tube. They take enormous jumps. There are very few bikes with more suspension travel than a Kenevo.

 

[Cris]

have you considered just making your own DH ebike?

i made mine for WAY cheaper then buying a new one.


mine is 1800peak motor watts (bbshd, 1500w nominal) so it goes stupid fast. 1600wh battery pack so it goes crazy far. 230mm rear travel and 200mm front. and at 62lb's its not even that heavy.

total project cost ( at the time) cost me around 4g Canadian, of that 4g , 2g was the bike used.


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What kit is that ? That’s the cleanest conversion I’ve seen

 

[Zimmerframe]

What kit is that ? That’s the cleanest conversion I’ve seen

There's a thread if you go back to his first posts.

 

[Keggie]

didnt know this existed, what a beast and spec for that money

I’ve put a deposit on one last January, but no one seems to know when Haibike will be releasing there 2022 models

 

[michael.kozera]

What kit is that ? That’s the cleanest conversion I’ve seen

the kit is a BBSHD. you can also use a smaller , less powerfull (750w, 500w, or 250w) bbs02 kit.

it wasnt even that hard to build, hardest part would be building the battery.


original build:

BBSHD Intense 951 Hyper E-Bike

hello all. here is my custom intense 951 Hyper E-bike build. i was gonna call it a "super" e-bike, however after looking around i have yet to see anything come close to the performance of this bike both in terms of electronics and the donner bikes mechanical specs. so its a "hyper" e-bike...

www.emtbforums.com

 

[1oldfart]

Giant Reign

 

[yomoe]

Hi,

I come from the Alps and I hate to pedal up to the top in UK... Usually, I do just something like 10 rides and I go home, which is quite annoying...

So I want to move to an e-Bike for the following reasons:
1. Avoid the pain back on the hill
2. The bike is heavier, I just love it, it gives me more stability
3. I can ride for longer when I go on long MTB trails, not bad for some side fun
4. I can wear all the protections of this planet, and I can still make it for an entire day of riding, the second day to the recovery room in hospital though

My primary use will be Downhill, so I wonder if the double fork models are so much better than the standard enduro fork.

I identified a few bikes:
- Giant Trance X X E+ Pro 2 2021 Trance X E+ Pro 29 2 (2021) | Giant Bicycles UK (4400 pounds, but probably I'd go for a Giant Reign around 6500 pounds)
- Whyte: E-180 S (6000 pounds, this seems to be much better)
- Husqvarna Extreme Cross 10 2021 - Extreme Cross 10 2021 (impossible to get in UK)
- Fantic Fantic E-Bike - Downhill - Integra XXF 2.0 720Wh Race (I don't know much about this e-bike, but I found it there and it seems that it could be available somewhere in UK)

The main discriminant is the fork, so, do I need to push my self to find a double fork model or I could be just fine with an enduro bike?
I'd like to have the max safety when it comes to landing, so I think that the DH model is the way...

I also need an e-bike where I can remove the battery quickly every time I need to charge it.

The Giant and Whyte are available, but Husqvarna and any other model similar to that are impossible to find in UK...
Probably Fantic is available somewhere, but then it always depends from the size etc.

Why has no one mentioned the Norco Range VLT?? 180mm of travel, 900mah battery (or option to choose smaller/ lighter one), an absolute beast of a bike for DH and anything/ everything in-between

 

[michael.kozera]

Why has no one mentioned the Norco Range VLT?? 180mm of travel, 900mah battery (or option to choose smaller/ lighter one), an absolute beast of a bike for DH and anything/ everything in-between

i think i speak for most when i say 180mm of travel is not exactly meant for DH....... like im sure it can do it, but surely out of its comfort range.

i would say minimum 200mm of travel, or at the minimum 180mm but with dual crown fork.