Unanswered Kiox, the annoying bits!

[d4voh]

Hi

I've got the Kiox display on my Jam2, seems ok but it has a few annoying things I've not got the answers too!

I'd like to do long rides, stopping a few times to chill, take it some views, only to find the Kiox has turned off and completed my ride, so I could end up with one ride split up into many stages. Garmin and Strava allow you to start and stop your own ride.....

Also, connecting to the eBike Connect app has caused me some issues. Firstly it drained my phone battery in 4 hours as I assume the Kiox doesn't have it's own GPS so uses the phone? So last night I tried reducing the phones battery usage, reducing CPU speed, restrict back ground data etc, only to get home after a 30mile ride to find Kiox had mapped the ride as 2 straight lines!!! I'm pretty sure I had gone into the eBike app to connect to the Kiox so that's not the issue, could it be due to me putting my phone into battery saving mode?

Small problems I know but a little annoying. Anyone else having similar issues?

I've e-mailed Bosch so we'll see what they suggest.

 

[Jamze]

Haven't got Kiox, but from experience with other GPS tracking apps on phones, that's what happens if you enable any battery-saving features. The phone just powers down the GPS and you end up with straight lines. You normally have to do the opposite - i.e. turn off any power-saving features for an app like Strava to work properly.

What about in the Bosch app, are there any setting in there for GPS accuracy/frequency that you could reduce?

 

[Mteam]

I've given up pairing my phone with the kiox and uninstalled the bosch app, its terrible. I just track my rides as I always have done using my garmin .

I know this doesnt directly answer your question but I think the bosch app is terribly designed.

Bosch - If you're watching can we just have a simple small display and buttons similar to shimanos display and buttons? or better still just the ability to transmit key data as fields to my garmin watch and get rid of the screen altogether.

 

[ggx]

Bosch APP , connectivity , interface and user experience are a minus . They have anounced improvement with last update bur I don´t see any. Furtunately motor and riding experience is a plus.

 

[d4voh]

Cheers for the replies. The bosch app is pants you're right! Think I'll just stick to my standalone Garmin. Great bike, great motor so has plus points!

 

[Jamy]

Hi

I've got the Kiox display on my Jam2, seems ok but it has a few annoying things I've not got the answers too!

I'd like to do long rides, stopping a few times to chill, take it some views, only to find the Kiox has turned off and completed my ride, so I could end up with one ride split up into many stages. Garmin and Strava allow you to start and stop your own ride.....

Also, connecting to the eBike Connect app has caused me some issues. Firstly it drained my phone battery in 4 hours as I assume the Kiox doesn't have it's own GPS so uses the phone? So last night I tried reducing the phones battery usage, reducing CPU speed, restrict back ground data etc, only to get home after a 30mile ride to find Kiox had mapped the ride as 2 straight lines!!! I'm pretty sure I had gone into the eBike app to connect to the Kiox so that's not the issue, could it be due to me putting my phone into battery saving mode?

Small problems I know but a little annoying. Anyone else having similar issues?

I've e-mailed Bosch so we'll see what they suggest.

your dead right about the stopping to chill and Kiox finishing your ride that is annoying
The battery thing I don't have issue with after 6 hr ride my phone battery went from 100% to 80% but i planned my ride on kamoot and sent it to the Kiox and just used kiox to navigate me
Thinking of upgrading to the Nyon I like the fact it tells you if your gonna get to your destination with mode your in also as built in GPS and able to tweak power outputs

 

[d4voh]

your dead right about the stopping to chill and Kiox finishing your ride that is annoying
The battery thing I don't have issue with after 6 hr ride my phone battery went from 100% to 80% but i planned my ride on kamoot and sent it to the Kiox and just used kiox to navigate me
Thinking of upgrading to the Nyon I like the fact it tells you if your gonna get to your destination with mode your in also as built in GPS and able to tweak power outputs

Thinking of this myself, are there two versions of nyon as one display in the range looks a bit too big for my liking.

 

[Jamy]

Thinking of this myself, are there two versions of nyon as one display in the range looks a bit too big for my liking.

there's the old version and the new 2020 model that just been released it as a 3.2inch screen

 

[PINNACLE]

The Kiox mapping is rubbish but if you want to use it and your phone, get a mount for your phone and use the usb socket on the Kiox to charge it.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

is the Kiox mapping still rubbish?

 

[d4voh]

I've not tried since! Given up!! Shame garmin edge 530 doesn't support the kiox so you can have a data screen with all the bike info on it.

 

[Mteam]

is the Kiox mapping still rubbish?

Yep, the whole thing is terrible.

 

[Jamy]

Yep, the whole thing is terrible.

I disagree

 

[Pigin]

I use Kiox.

There are some good bits and rubbish areas that need improvement.

Using an iPhone XR I don’t have any issues with battery usage. The app will only work on ‘Always On” and choosing only when using just does not work. The app needs work so I look at it on line in the portal and then export it to Strava to see the ascent figures. If there have been stops in the ride and it has recorded it as separate rides then in the export I export the whole day rather than in segments.

The stats and info recorded is pretty good but as with all these things there will be discrepancies between differ tech companies as to the values.

The major pluses for me are the battery state is shown in % rather than bars and it links in real time with HRM to assist with training zones. Sat Nav is basic but it works, it needs to be better in terms of speed and accuracy but that is reliant on the connected phone.

Bosch seem slow to develop themselves out of the issues which makes no business sense at all especially given the amount of tech competition they have.

 

[Dr.GonzO]

Splitting up the ride is a really annoying feature on the kiox, had it myself a couple of times.
Like to know what`s the timespan before it deceides to do this.
Also yesterday my elevation gain was like 50 meters as my mates were 550 meters on the same ride, logged the rest of the ride correct so GPS was available.