Kiox and Bluetooth data

[Clarky860]

Any one else want more from there Kiox? I was hoping I would be able to link to a garmin or similar device so I could record the ride my way and not through the bosch app. I think a few other manufactures transmit data via bluetooth or ant+ such as cadence and power (the data i want sent to my garmin device)

I emailed Bosch to ask for this feature and maybe if a few more people email they may just implement it.

[email protected]

 

[GrahamPaul]

Any one else want more from there Kiox? I was hoping I would be able to link to a garmin or similar device so I could record the ride my way and not through the bosch app. I think a few other manufactures transmit data via bluetooth or ant+ such as cadence and power (the data i want sent to my garmin device)

I emailed Bosch to ask for this feature and maybe if a few more people email they may just implement it.

[email protected]

Isn't that what their new Smartphone Hub does? AFAIR, it needs the Kiox mount. I'm still not sure whether I want this or not. It duplicates my Edge 1000 and is big and clumsy looking.

Bosch seem to be keen on upselling rather than upgrading their interface.

 

[dochabanero]

Have sent them a similar request while back. In short:

# choice of display, no display but still BT and ANT+
# ANT+ support regardless of my first point
# Slimmer/smaller mode switch rather than the bulky options provided now.

Also want to leave my phone home and only use the Watch (Apple) to reduce the risk of breaking it. The watch has LTE, so using Bosch Connect with the phone would be nice. That however may be down to Apple not allowing 3rd party apps access to LTE.

 

[unclezz]

Hello!

I absolutely second @Clarky860 as well as @dochabanero !
Actually I really dislike the way Bosch is closing doors to 3rd parties.

My dream is to use the Bosch engines with my Garmin Edge, as it is possible already with Shimano and Specialized/Brose setup.
Also I really don't like the fact that it is not possible to change support values. Also in this case Specialized is far ahead.

I will also send e-mail to Bosch support, don;t think it will help but worth a try.

 

[R80]

Is it possible to link your rides to Strava?

 

[Clarky860]

Is it possible to link your rides to Strava?

It is possible to upload to strava when you use a computer to look at your track on the bosch ebike connect webpage. But I want the sensor data to be sent to my garmin device likle nearly all other brands have done

 

[Cabby.]

Actually I really dislike the way Bosch is closing doors to 3rd parties.
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What kind of phone do you own ?

 

[unclezz]

What kind of phone do you own ?

Is that relevant?

I am not referring to phones but more to devices like Garmin Edge

 

[Cabby.]

Is that relevant?

It's relevant if you own an Apple

 

[mak]

I might be missing something hear but what more do you wont from the bosch? When you get home if your inclined to look it gives virtually everything that's relevant , Power/ cadence/miles/ your input vs motor the entire route, the list goes on.

To be honest I don't bother with it now. I used to be intrigued when I 1st got the bike but after a 1000 miles the novelty has worn off.

Between Bosch/ Garmin and Kamoot that all link up together the data is overwhelming and would require more of my effort to decipher it than the actual ride I don't feel the need to investigate

 

[Clarky860]

I might be missing something hear but what more do you wont from the bosch? When you get home if your inclined to look it gives virtually everything that's relevant , Power/ cadence/miles/ your input vs motor the entire route, the list goes on.

To be honest I don't bother with it now. I used to be intrigued when I 1st got the bike but after a 1000 miles the novelty has worn off.

Between Bosch/ Garmin and Kamoot that all link up together the data is overwhelming and would require more of my effort to decipher it than the actual ride I don't feel the need to investigate

Yes you are correct and I know I can see all these once I get home, don't get me wrong my gripe is very small and doesn't subtract from me enjoying my bike but... all I am asking is if it is possible for Bosch to implement this? I believe it would just be a software update as all the hardware is already in the unit, also this would bring bosch level with the other manufacturers for 3rd party devices/apps integration.

 

[sbellisario]

Yes you are correct and I know I can see all these once I get home, don't get me wrong my gripe is very small and doesn't subtract from me enjoying my bike but... all I am asking is if it is possible for Bosch to implement this? I believe it would just be a software update as all the hardware is already in the unit, also this would bring bosch level with the other manufacturers for 3rd party devices/apps integration.

it would be great to be able to read engine data from a Garmin edge device!
I also wrote an email...
let's hope!

 

[unclezz]

I never got a reply from Bosch and honestly I already started looking at e-bikes with other motors just because of the integration. On this one the good and old Shimano is my current favorite

 

[sbellisario]

why don't we write here all together?

https://www.facebook.com/pg/boschebikesystems/posts/?ref=page_internal

just written!

 

[sbellisario]

 

[Aitrui]

Yeah,Bosch doing the same things as in the car industry. You will get integration and compatibility with 3rd party devices in Kiox 10 in 2029, when everybody else is already on MindConnect.

I used a kiox for a while, and eventually dicthed all of the displays, I just ride, no speed, no data, just the wind.

 

[sbellisario]

Please write all here !!! let's hear! if we are many, they will listen to us!

 

[sbellisario]

something is moving, make yourself heard ...
you also reply to the thread on fb!

 

[miguepram]

I have also left a message but I don't have high expectations. Integration with garmin would sink the sales of its new nyon 2020

 

[dochabanero]

Hope that people don’t just shout ‘we want an app’ but rather put some effort into explaining exactly what the are missing in respect of Bosch eBike systems, Kiox/No Kiox, App integration, Custom power modes, etc.

I’m sure Bosch are interested to hear in detail what the customer base has on their wishlist

 

[Aitrui]

I’m sure Bosch are interested to hear in detail what the customer base has on their wishlist

sure....

Bosch is massive (enormous) company compared to any of his competitors. They don't care about the tiny amount (I'm guessing less than 0.1%) of the customer who want more from the system as capable right now. They dictate what you can buy, when, and how much does it cost, not the customers. Along the way they will or already lying something to you about the products, that's how they operate.

 

[Hamina]

sure....

Bosch is massive (enormous) company compared to any of his competitors. They don't care about the tiny amount (I'm guessing less than 0.1%) of the customer who want more from the system as capable right now. They dictate what you can buy, when, and how much does it cost, not the customers. Along the way they will or already lying something to you about the products, that's how they operate.

Why should they care about some minority if the normal products sell good?

Integration to Garmin would be nice feature, but I’m not holding my breath. They seem to build their own ecosystem.

 

[d7e8wd]

Looks like you all got some good news today with the navigation update for the kiox..

Anyone know how their maps work?

 

[miguepram]

Looks like you all got some good news today with the navigation update for the kiox..

Anyone know how their maps work?

Openstreetmaps

 

[Ma Nook]

something is moving, make yourself heard ...
you also reply to the thread on fb!

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I did the same, please reply also in FB; let’s get some traction going

 

[Jamy]

Try this forum, they have active Bosch tech guys who answer your questions

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[Ma Nook]

Hey Thanks ! Although there seems to be many issues with Bosh! It almost convinces me to give up and go for Brose once and for all...

 

[Minikeum]

Any update on that topic? I would really like to have the information of input power and cadence, fed to my Garmin Fenix 6 watch, mainly for training purposes.

Note that I only have a Purion console, but would retrofit to Kiox if this data transfer to Garmin devices was possible.
I would also prefer keeping the Purion if these info were accessible somehow.

 

[mak]

Any update on that topic? I would really like to have the information of input power and cadence, fed to my Garmin Fenix 6 watch, mainly for training purposes.

Note that I only have a Purion console, but would retrofit to Kiox if this data transfer to Garmin devices was possible.
I would also prefer keeping the Purion if these info were accessible somehow.

I've just popped out to the garage and turned the bike on. Disconnected battery saver on my Fenix 6 pro, went to Bluetooth on the kiox and it connected straight away to the watch, the kiox is showing both my phone and watch connected with a little heart rate monitor display.
No idea if it will do anything but ill let you no next time I'm out on the bike.

 

[Minikeum]

thanks!
the best would be to get that data without having to create a Bosch ebike connect account. I already have Garmin Connect, Strava, and Trailforks. I don’t want/need another one!