Just wonder if anyone found the stock tyres (Butcher, GRID casing, Gripton compound, 2Bliss Ready, 27.5 x 2.8") not great for grip wet or very dry ..? could just be me as my son said he loves them but I have had a lot of crash with front wheel slipping out ? I ordered some (Magic Mary Evo 27.5x2.60" DH Addix UltraSoft Wire) from Front and rear . so will post my thoughts when I have then fitted..
Kenevo and Levo stock Butcher tyres - grip questions ???
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DEADMEAT
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You almost answered this yourself.
Kenevo stock tyres - Grip questionable...
Kenevo stock tyres - Grip questionable...
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I have lost a bit of confidence on corner since getting the Kenevo , I am jumping much bigger and bike feels really solid much nicer than my Demo 8 , except the corners and grip .. I will stick front and back on for now got a good price so need my confidence back more than £35 Lol
Just curious, what tire pressures front and rear do you use and what is your weight?
Hey Greyedout,
I had 2.6 MM's DH front and rear. Great choice!!!
In my opinion the Butchers are ok, but the DH versions of the MMs are something else!
Upsides:
They are mega grippy and are sure to help you regain your confidence.
They are also almost indestructable, you can run them with low pressures as they have super thick sidewalls. (Check out the screenshot below). The yellow bit in the screenshot is some sort of hard material that you cannot physically bend, unlike the paper thin Butcher. Point and shoot at any rock garden. They are that good!
You will see on the sidewalls recommended pressures start from 17psi up to 35 psi.
I ran mine with 18psi front and rear and they were great. You may need more depending on how you like things set up.
Downsides:
They are heavy 1.4kgs. Who cares!!! you have an ebike and to be honest I did not feel I was having to push any harder to get up to speed or to get up steep hills or my battery ran flat any earlier
They wear quicker than normal. Hey! you want grip? Well there is a cost to grip. If you are riding on terrain like I have in Brechfa Wales which has a lot of routes made of slatey/rocky compound then 6 months tops before you have to think about changing them. As you know, most ebikers are covering twice to 3 times the mileage they used to do on their non engined mtb's so 6 months is a lot of miles.
Hope the above helps.
Donnie797
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The MMs are a great choice, i love them! I would just not use the ultra soft compound on the rear - it will wear down quick and you might destroy the nobs much quicker when sliding. But yes, for confidence and ultra grip it's fine
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63Kg around 25psi front and rear
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The MMs are a great choice, i love them! I would just not use the ultra soft compound on the rear - it will wear down quick and you might destroy the nobs much quicker when sliding. But yes, for confidence and ultra grip it's fine
Ok thanks , I have order the DH version any thoughts on DH vs TL ...
The MMs are a great choice, i love them! I would just not use the ultra soft compound on the rear - it will wear down quick and you might destroy the nobs much quicker when sliding. But yes, for confidence and ultra grip it's fine
I can confirm that there are no destroyed knobs after 6 months of use. They are worn but not that worn. I will post a picture tomorrow.
74kgs 18psi front and rear
I weigh 95 kg (too many cheese burgers and beer) and I am using 25 PSI rear and 24 PSI front, although I currently have Maxxis DHR tires. 0 issues in any terrain or weather conditions.
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Hey Greyedout,
I had 2.6 MM's DH front and rear. Great choice!!!
In my opinion the Butchers are ok, but the DH versions of the MMs are something else!
Upsides:
They are mega grippy and are sure to help you regain your confidence.
They are also almost indestructable, you can run them with low pressures as they have super thick sidewalls. (Check out the screenshot below). The yellow bit in the screenshot is some sort of hard material that you cannot physically bend, unlike the paper thin Butcher. Point and shoot at any rock garden. They are that good!
You will see on the sidewalls recommended pressures start from 17psi up to 35 psi.
I ran mine with 18psi front and rear and they were great. You may need more depending on how you like things set up.
Downsides:
They are heavy 1.4kgs. Who cares!!! you have an ebike and to be honest I did not feel I was having to push any harder to get up to speed or to get up steep hills or my battery ran flat any earlier
They wear quicker than normal. Hey! you want grip? Well there is a cost to grip. If you are riding on terrain like I have in Brechfa Wales which has a lot of routes made of slatey/rocky compound then 6 months tops before you have to think about changing them. As you know, most ebikers are covering twice to 3 times the mileage they used to do on their non engined mtb's so 6 months is a lot of miles.
Hope the above helps.
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Wicked .. thanks for taking the time great advice ..!
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just got back from a 2 hour ride (new wheels not arrive but) put a MM DH on the front and man the grip was so much better cornering and braking an mega steep trails. Still had the 2.8 butcher on the rear which was all over the place but thats my riding more that anything. will be riding over the weekend and really see how much better the MM perform for me..
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maybe I need to drop to 18PSI .! my Kenveo isn't tubeless btw
Ah, sorry, I have been running tubeless for years and keep thinking everyone else is.
Should have said, apologies.
Did you get rim strips with your Kenevo? If not, I don’t think they cost too much and are easy to fit. Get some ‘Stans no tubes’ sealant, some tubeless valves, watch the YouTube vids and you are good to go or you could get your local bike shop to convert you to tubeless if you don’t want to take the task on yourself.
Once you go tubeless you will never go back. Also, if you are running DH MMs the likely hood of getting a puncture is virtually zero. All you need to remember to do is to check and top up the sealant if required every 2 or 3 months
Donnie797
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Maybe the "Performance" line of the MM would be a good choice? Of course not as much grip as the ultra soft compound, but much more durability:
6 months of use on an ultra-soft magic mary and still good? Okay, guess the trails in the swiss alps are killing those rear-tyres much quicker (and my higher rider-weight maybe) ^^ Had Nobby Nics two years ago (hard compound on the rear) and some of the nobs were gone after the first 2 weeks - just ripped off from breaking hard on the roots and rocks... then i have a friend riding the soft Nobby Nics for 2 years - but he's just 50kg
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Maybe the "Performance" line of the MM would be a good choice? Of course not as much grip as the ultra soft compound, but much more durability:
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6 months of use on an ultra-soft magic mary and still good? Okay, guess the trails in the swiss alps are killing those rear-tyres much quicker (and my higher rider-weight maybe) ^^ Had Nobby Nics two years ago (hard compound on the rear) and some of the nobs were gone after the first 2 weeks - just ripped off from breaking hard on the roots and rocks... then i have a friend riding the soft Nobby Nics for 2 years - but he's just 50kg
Cheers Donnie, couldn't fine bigger than 2.35 in the "Performance" but come across the Apex which looks good o your chart .. even the MM DH 2.6 looked odd on the front after a coupe of week looking at the mega 2.8 ...maybe they will do 2.8 on these soon...
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Ok so just found the Apex in 2.8 ! which could be the best around option .. so my next question to the group is .is it the combination of a thinner 2.6 and the MM that make the grip so good or will a 2.8 but the same .I do like the massive 2.8 when riding on rocks and roots just feel there is more rubber helping ..Lol
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Hmmm I will check in the boxes . I think the rims are taped a just swap tyre to try a new MM DH on the front and it looked taped to me but I need to ask my son
Thanks. I was told the rims are taped and the valves were supplied - but as the valves weren't in the box I'm questioning the information.
The Butchers are tubeless ready, which is a nudge in the right direction.
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I need to check for Valves ! asI haven't open any of the extra boxes I need to check they maybe in one just took the charger out Lol... will have a look now give me 5
Awesome thanks, no rush though.
Donnie797
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I will try the new Schwalbe "Eddy Current" as soon my first set of Butchers is done on the Kenevo, really wonder how good they are.
The 2.8 vs 2.6 question is really depending on personal feeling, the riding style and the ground you're riding on. Easy spoken, the thinner will stay on track better when it's muddy, the thicker will more smoothly ride over roots and rocks and gives more grip on the climbs. Maybe best choice is 2,8 in the rear and 2,6 in the front? I remember an EMTB video where they talked about that, but can't remember when...
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