Keeping Up with Mates

[eztiger]

I was wondering who else had invested in the range extender so that they can keep up with their mates using full-fat bikes, but not use up the battery too quickly?
Should I get new ride mates or buy the extender (aka turn it into a full-fat bike)?

 

[JoRo]

Change ebike

 

[eztiger]

Change ebike

LOL, not the cheapest option!

 

[jka]

Get new ride mates. Much cheaper.

 

[Tonybro]

I don't see what the problem is... It will only be on the climbs they pull away slightly. I use mine mainly for range not speed...

 

[urastus]

I ride in a power mode that would be less than the rise or levo sl. I still like the normal emtb though because I have the versatility of riding with others on emtb. I don't ride with others often though.

 

[Bummers]

The answer to any issue with your current bike is always 'new bike!'

 

[Pdoz]

Orbeacentric - the inability to understand letting down your mates tyres is cheaper than buying a range extender.

Spend enough time a levo sl and you learn....

 

[Shjay]

Most of guys I ride with on analogue bikes so just eco on climbs & descents they are usually well over 25km cut off not so fun when flat & pedally

 

[eztiger]

The answer to any issue with your current bike is always 'new bike!'

I sold my fall-fat ebike to buy the rise, I really can't now sell my rise for a full-fat ebike!!
Or, can I

 

[Bummers]

I sold my fall-fat ebike to buy the rise, I really can't now sell my rise for a full-fat ebike!!
Or, can I

Of course! And this time you've got the experience to know not to sell again

 

[mak]

I sold my fall-fat ebike to buy the rise, I really can't now sell my rise for a full-fat ebike!!
Or, can I

Lol, I've been tempted by one of these bikes and I cant help but think it would suit me, I manly ride in eco , tour mode is more than enough but I just cant commit.
For me to go all in I would need a day on one to compare to the full fat on my own terms but that's not going to happen, the other option is to buy one and just keep both until I am sure .
Incidentally I ride on my own so have no reference apart from my own enjoyment .

 

[Richridesmtb]

Tell your mates to lay off the boost for the climbs and you'll be right.

 

[Another One]

Change ebike

2nd this - Although I am bias just never seen the point of low weight (Well 19kg) I always wanted as much power possible.

 

[4mal]

2nd this - Although I am bias just never seen the point of low weight (Well 19kg) I always wanted as much power possible.

If you're riding tight twisty stuff, that extra weight may present as unwanted inertia particularly going down. What I love about the M-LTD is that it handles a lot like my old acoustic Django. This is going to vary widely based on terrain though. On our local trail network the extra weight would be unwelcome. Other places, maybe not as much.

 

[1oldfart]

loose 7 kilos and buy pizza for others

 

[Timochka69]

I sold my fall-fat ebike to buy the rise, I really can't now sell my rise for a full-fat ebike!!
Or, can I

N+1 fail.

 

[Moshe]

I was wondering who else had invested in the range extender so that they can keep up with their mates using full-fat bikes, but not use up the battery too quickly?
Should I get new ride mates or buy the extender (aka turn it into a full-fat bike)?

I have a Kenevo SL. I am always being left behind. Also, there are hills that I used to ride up on my full fat that now I have to walk to bike up. Sometimes I wish I bought the full fat Levo or Kenevo but I am not rich so I will have to live with my decision. I love the Kenevo SL for its low weight and great handling. Everything is a compromise.

 

[Doomanic]

I am always being left behind.

You need new mates.

 

[Moshe]

I am a Democrat living in an area of Ohio in which every other house has a Trump sign or flag in the front yard. People around my neighborhood view me as a " radical, left, communist, socialist ,baby killer, bent on destroying America". It is tough for me to find new mates.

 

[iJak]

I am a Democrat living in an area of Ohio in which every other house has a Trump sign or flag in the front yard. People around my neighborhood view me as a " radical, left, communist, socialist ,baby killer, bent on destroying America". It is tough for me to find new mates.

hahah you definitely have different concerns than ebikes half fat full fat.

 

[1oldfart]

hahah you definitely have different concerns than ebikes half fat full fat.

He needs a motorcycle to avoid gun shots.

 

[Richridesmtb]

Aren't friends allowed to have opposing views in the US? We're allowed to in the antipodes. In fact we often dont care too much about politics and can generally agree that many politicians are shit people.

There is a gag that America is a joke, the only problem is the world is no longer laughing.

 

[iJak]

Aren't friends allowed to have opposing views in the US? We're allowed to in the antipodes. In fact we often dont care too much about politics and can generally agree that many politicians are shit people.

There is a gag that America is a joke, the only problem is the world is no longer laughing.

keyword "friends" - at least based on media portrayal, the moment there is opposing views in Murica, we are no longer friends.

 

[stonedwolf]

I am a Democrat living in an area of Ohio in which every other house has a Trump sign or flag in the front yard. People around my neighborhood view me as a " radical, left, communist, socialist ,baby killer, bent on destroying America". It is tough for me to find new mates.

I don't agree with their politics but if their memes are anything to go by at least they have a sense of humour, so that's something.

You could always compromise by being openly pro-DeSantis, he's basically a 1990s Democrat.

 

[Moshe]

Since Trump took office in 2016, the American people have become bitterly divided. It is insane, our politicians are dividing us for their party's own political expedience, and most people are falling for their plot. Americans have a saying, "United we stand, divided we fall". Everyone here says that saying, but then most people are eager to be divided and hate the other side. This will likely be the downfall of America. Very sad.

 

[stonedwolf]

Trump didn't create the fault lines he exposed them, they were already there. The warning signs have been there for many years, since the early 1990s at least, the division now was planned and executed by the top American universities. See "Higher Superstition" by Paul Gross and "Shadow University" by Alan Kors; each first published in the early 90s. And if the books sound mental? Bear in mind the authors are very serious Ivy League academics with impeccable CVs (one a biologist, one a historian). They were the canaries in the coal-mine, well-reviewed at the time but otherwise ignored. What they predicted, based on their observations at the serious academies, has absolutely come to pass.

 

[1oldfart]

Since 1980 they are erasing countries. No borders. Nowhere to pay taxes.
Millionnaires move to multi millionnaires, to billionnaires, to multi billionnaires
to trillionnaires.
Dumb consumers just owe more money.
Calculate the deficits per capita in the USA, Canada, etc... most are poor but live
way over what they can afford, unpaid cars, unpaid bikes, unpaid phones, etc...
Large corporations win every election.
Well we will see in 10 years all the damages since 1980.

 

[stonedwolf]

Large corporations win every election.

Especially finance, aka Wall Street (US) and "The City" (UK).

The 2008 crash and depression was singularly cased by endemic financial fraud, and the ONLY people to get bailed out by the state were the ONLY people to have caused it. And they are still being bailed out (quantitative easing) and all they have done with that money is give each other bonuses. Doesn't matter if you vote left or right. Big finance owns the Democrats and Labour just as much as it does Republicans and the Tories.

That's why demagogues, heading a political party but perceived as being outside of the long-term party structure, became so appealing be they Trump & Bernie, or Corbyn & Boris; because as foul as they are better them than the wholly-owned whores of the establishment families be they Cheney or Bush or Pelosi or Clinton or a Biden; or in the UK the likes of Alistair Darling or Gordon Brown or Blair (or Clegg) were in office exactly and precisely the same policies as anyone on the Tory hard right.

 

[Moshe]

Trump didn't create the fault lines he exposed them, they were already there. The warning signs have been there for many years, since the early 1990s at least, the division now was planned and executed by the top American universities. See "Higher Superstition" by Paul Gross and "Shadow University" by Alan Kors; each first published in the early 90s. And if the books sound mental? Bear in mind the authors are very serious Ivy League academics with impeccable CVs (one a biologist, one a historian). They were the canaries in the coal-mine, well-reviewed at the time but otherwise ignored. What they predicted, based on their observations at the serious academies, has absolutely come to pass.

Trump didn't create the fault line in American politics, but by using demagogic, inflammatory rhetoric, Trump hammered in a huge wedge that split this fault line to create a highly divided populace. He has spawned so much hate that has pushed the American people's psyche into a cult-like adherence to party over country, ideology over integrity, and a cult following over democracy. This overheated division has pushed America to the precipice of self-destruction.