Is trail mode similar to Bosch EMTB mode?

[KenX]

Haven't tried it yet, but if I set trail mode to 300%, will it work the same as the Bosch emtb mode?
In boost, it seems to deliver all the power immediately which as opposed to trail where the harder you pedal, the more power it delivers which is like the Bosch and feels more natural.....
Or will it end up just like boost?
If nobody's done it, I'll give it a go and report back!

 

[AverageJoeMTB]

I'm running old firmware so I can have the bike set to US region. Be interested In hearing feedback on this mode too ?

 

[Eckythump]

If you whack it up to 300% it feels just like boost but without the overrun. It is worth playing with the assistance level in smaller increments though.

 

[PeterM]

I'm running old firmware so I can have the bike set to US region. Be interested In hearing feedback on this mode too ?

You dont need to run the older firmware to change regions.

 

[AverageJoeMTB]

Ah I thought you did for steps unlocker. Will check it out ?

 

[R120]

Yes is the simple answer, in that it is a reactive mode that will give you more support when it thinks you need it, and respond to your inputs.

 

[KenX]

Thanks R120, thought that might be the case! I'll load up the settings and give it a go next time I'm out.
Yes, boost gives you the full monty, but it's so binary in the way it comes in, all or nothing!

 

[R120]

Yes, boost is useless for trail riding, its really just for winching you back up a fireroad or similar when knackered IMO.

I find it a lot easier to do technical climbs in Trail

 

[lamomie]

I do not think they are comparable, the shimano trail has a constant% support (low, medium or hight up to 70nm while the bosch has a% of assistance which varies automatically from 110% up to 300% in emtb mode...

 

[R120]

 

[HORSPWR]

Ah I thought you did for steps unlocker. Will check it out ?

Not anymore since our legendary mate fixed it up!

 

[HORSPWR]

Yes, boost is useless for trail riding, its really just for winching you back up a fireroad or similar when knackered IMO.

I find it a lot easier to do technical climbs in Trail

Or so you don't have to pay for the shuttle service to the trailhead

 

[lamomie]

the explanation in the video, does not correspond at all to the curves above or where the coefficient of assistance is constant over the whole range

 

[R120]

the explanation in the video, does not correspond at all to the curves above or where the coefficient of assistance is constant over the whole range

Thats because they updated Trail mode about 2 years ago - the graphs you have predate that.

EMTB Mode and Trail mode work slightly differently, but both do a similar thing.

 

[KenX]

Put it to the test today on my favourite climb, trail at 300%, same ultimate power as boost, but far less snatchy on light inputs and a much more useful all-round mode than boost