Is it just me or is the seat tube oddly long on the Rise?

[cosas_genericas]

I looked at the Orbea Blue Papers and it looks like I should be able to fit most of a OneUp 210 dropper in the frame to replace the OEM 150.

Compared to my Ripmo and Spire, I've surprised at how much seat tube there is and how hard it is to get the saddle out of the way on step descents.

 

[jim0905]

That's my main criticism of the bike

 

[Shjay]

It’s only really long on the XL model! Transition are renowned for having v short seat tube & Ibis! Have owned both Smuggler & Ripley

 

[Sherman]

Looks like the seat tubes are extremely short on Ripmo and Spire.

Also, I really don't understand the need to slam the saddle as low as it goes. As long as it goes down enough is..ehh enough. I have plenty of seatpost showing on my DH bike, actually I use inner thighs to control the bike.

 

[MikeL_mtb]

Yes, I see people recommending to upsize alot on this bike, and I can't see how the seat tube is NOT an issue when doing that. I'm 5'9
(175cm) and I couldn't ride a large with a 457 seat tube, I would need a 120mm dropper. I do have a transition patrol in LG and a 475 reach, which I can ride downhill just fine, but it has, I think a 420ish seat tube.

 

[jka]

Not too long for me. I'm 5'11' on a large and I can drag my butt on the tire if I want to. I'd rather not though. Every body is built differently. If you have shorter legs and the same height as me, it might seem like the seat tube is too long. Get the right size for you or get another bike with geo that fits your body better. If you're 5'9", you might do better on a medium.

 

[cosas_genericas]

I don't know how you can buzz your butt with the rear wheel. You would have to be way back and too high, maybe even behind the saddle which would be dangerous.

I'm jumping and moving my bike around in the air and the saddle is more in the way than any of the 30 some bikes I've ridden in the last five years. When on very steep chutes that saddle is no where out of the way. I wonder if I would have gone with a levo SL if I had found a test bike before.

 

[MikeL_mtb]

I don't know how you can buzz your butt with the rear wheel. You would have to be way back and too high, maybe even behind the saddle which would be dangerous.

I'm jumping and moving my bike around in the air and the saddle is more in the way than any of the 30 some bikes I've ridden in the last five years. When on very steep chutes that saddle is no where out of the way. I wonder if I would have gone with a levo SL if I had found a test bike before.

I haven't done the math on it yet, but the collar and "stack" of the stock dropper is tall, the one up shimmed so the collar is flush with the frame should help as it's a lower stack design, and their collar is pretty thin compared to most.

 

[cosas_genericas]

I haven't done the math on it yet, but the collar and "stack" of the stock dropper is tall, the one up shimmed so the collar is flush with the frame should help as it's a lower stack design, and their collar is pretty thin compared to most.

I'll install the post this week and report back with photos.

 

[jka]

If that's a problem, then this bike is clearly not the bike for you and your body geometry. I don't have any problem with the seat tube length and it is no worse that any of the 100 or so bikes I've ridden in the past 30+ years. Don't ride a bike that is dangerous for your riding style. You can't change the seat tube length so you have to deal with in one way or another. If you already bought one, sell it. If you haven't, don't buy one.

 

[Chicane]

I’m 6’ with a longer than average inseam 35” for my height and ride a Large Rise. I have a 180mm Oneup and have 45mm of seat post showing, so I could easily run a 210mm dropper.

Height doesn’t matter as much as your inseam does.

 

[cosas_genericas]

Right - I'm 5'11, +35in inseam (not jeans) and very lanky. How come you didn't buy the 210?

 

[Snowrydr01]

I looked at the Orbea Blue Papers and it looks like I should be able to fit most of a OneUp 210 dropper in the frame to replace the OEM 150.

Compared to my Ripmo and Spire, I've surprised at how much seat tube there is and how hard it is to get the saddle out of the way on step descents. View attachment 83006

I also own a ripmo (in medium) and the 418 is a bit deceiving. If i slam the seat the tires hits the saddle aggressively. I need the dropper 20mm above the seat collar to clear the back tire.

 

[BiGJZ74]

I'm 5'11" on a large rise and found that the 170 OC dropper felt a bit higher than I prefer when it's slammed (tall stack height). I tried to install a oneup 210 slammed which fits, but the cable had just enough tension on it to not release properly although it fit slammed to the collar. I have a long torso and short legs so I need a bigger frame with a deep seat post insertion depth. I've found my max Seat tube I can run is 460mm with a max insertion of 310mm to fit a One up 210 slammed. I've ordered a Oneup v2 actuator to see if that works with the rises intervals better because the 210 had a perfect dropped and extended height for me. The part delivers this coming Wednesday so we shall see,

 

[cosas_genericas]

You tried taking all the tension off the cable at the barrel adjuster on the OEM Shimano dropper lever?

 

[BiGJZ74]

You tried taking all the tension off the cable at the barrel adjuster on the OEM Shimano dropper lever?

Cable kinks a bit at full insertion. If you raise post 2-3mm issue goes away.

 

[Scford]

It is a bit taller than I like, especially coming off a heckler which felt lower. However I found running a oneup v2 dropper was about as ideal as I could get, the stack height is 2.5cm lower than the stock orbea dropper, I can get away with running a 180mm dropper just about slammed, but the reduced stack let’s the seat get out of the way pretty well tbh.

5’10” on a large btw

 

[Scford]

Here’s a great comparison from enduro mag that compares stack heights of some popular droppers, helped me figure out how to maximize the drop I could get!

 

[cosas_genericas]

Awesome find, thank you!

 

[Interpaul]

Resurrecting this post, I have an XL rise. I am 6' 1.5" and was advised by the shop I bought the bike from to buy the XL. Swithered a bit between L and XL.

Anyway I have the XL now and it fits me great, but sometimes on steep stuff I would like the saddle a bit lower. If the OneUp will drop the saddle by 2.5cm as mentioned by @Scford that would be perfect. Does anyone have a pic of the ONeUp slammed right down so I can see how much it reduces height?

 

[ebsocalmtb]

6'2" - 210mm 1up post shimmed down to 200mm slammed into an XL. Seat is a WTB Koda Wide

 

[borysgo2]

184cm tall, frame size L, 210mm oneup dropper fits in properly. After the brakes this is the best upgrade.

 

[Shjay]

181cm tall on Large with one up 210mm dropper slammed. Nothing original on my M20

 

[Bob Orbea Rise]

The XL has a higher stack as said and is annoying for stand over

Should of gone large really

 

[Interpaul]

It's a non issue actually, I rode a load of steep off piste trails at Glentress at the weekend and the saddle was never in the way once.

Money would be better spent on shorter cranks

 

[VicenarianEbiker]

I hope so... I have a giant and there's no space!