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Photoshop is certainly possible, but the only bikes I know with a high swingarm like that (Siryon and Wolf Ridge) have a very different shape.
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That’s an ugly bike looks like an Orange with that rear swingarm
It looked like a big control unit on the left side so I thought of Bosch.Oso is the name I believe and it will be announced around Oct 4. My lbs has them on order already. Bosch powered.
Shit, I really hoped Ibis first ebike would be a lightweight trail bike same as pivot SL in a eRipley flavour.
But it’s rather beefy enduro, heavy motor and questionable design… Not for me.
New Bosch motor is only 150g heavier than the EP8? It's no Tq50 or Fazua but it's decent weight no?Bosch motors being what they are, we'd be lucky to see 53-54lbs.
Bosch motors being what they are, we'd be lucky to see 53-54lbs.
That doesn't match what I'm seeing:New Bosch motor is only 150g heavier than the EP8? It's no Tq50 or Fazua but it's decent weight no?
There is a new Bosch motor Performance Line CX Race Limited Edition - Designed to Win RacesThat doesn't match what I'm seeing:
- Bosch 2023 Performance Line CX - Performance Line CX – The highest performance eBike drive – Bosch eBike Systems 6.4lbs/2.9kg
- Powertube 750 - The eBike battery: long range, low weight, easy to charge 9.5lbs/4.3kg
- EP8 - EP8 5.73lbs/2.6kg
- Darfon/Narco 720wh battery (closest thing I could find) 8.4-8.6lbs/3.8-3.9kg
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This puts the Bosch around 700-750g heavier than the closest EP8 equivalent. Granted, this doesn't compare wiring harnesses and other ancilliary parts, but since they're a small fraction of the total it should be good enough for a rough order of magnitude.
They are only making 500 race motors for each brand.There is a new Bosch motor Performance Line CX Race Limited Edition - Designed to Win Races
The Bosch 625wh battery = 3.5kg the shimano 630wh = 3.7kg.
I've never ridden a Bosch bike to be honest but on the whole they don't seem significantly heavier. I have a Shimano bike.
As noted by @Alexbn921 , it's a limited-edition motor supposedly reserved for EWS-e, and even if Bosch is fibbing about the production run, that magnesium case has got to be crazy expensive to produce. Ibis is usually cost-competitive with other high-end brands, so I can't see them going that route even if it was available.There is a new Bosch motor Performance Line CX Race Limited Edition - Designed to Win Races
The Shimano 625 battery is indeed lighter by about 120g, but since Shimano doesn't make a 700+ wh battery and the third party batteries seem to have better power density, that seems to be more relevant.The Bosch 625wh battery = 3.5kg the shimano 630wh = 3.7kg.
I've never ridden a Bosch bike to be honest but on the whole they don't seem significantly heavier. I have a Shimano bike.
I think its best described as an E stayLooks good! A lot better looking than their regular bikes.
Magnesium seems to be widely used. It shouldnt be that expensive. E8000 and ep8's have mag cases. A lot of suspension fork lowers are mag as wellthat magnesium case has got to be crazy expensive to produce
But crazy expensive if you only make a run of 500 units ..Magnesium seems to be widely used. It shouldnt be that expensive. E8000 and ep8's have mag cases. A lot of suspension fork lowers are mag as well
I didnt know that about the brose. I wondercif the 500 units thing is a trial run? Us being the guinea pigs. If it works w/o issue, and thats the case(no pun intnd), it'll be much more than 500 id thinkBut crazy expensive if you only make a run of 500 units ..
Remember Brose went from ally (1.3) to Magnesium (2.1). Which was the cause of a lot of the issues they have. The bearings which were press fitted into an ally case had to be bonded into the mag case which has been a repetitive failure point. No idea how that fits with the bosch motor or if that would be relevant and something to look out for based on the design if the weight saving is achieved via ally to to mag ?
@Bearing Man ? You probably have more idea than us dumb dumbs - and the IBIS would be perfect for you.
Where's the sick emoji?Photoshop is certainly possible, but the only bikes I know with a high swingarm like that (Siryon and Wolf Ridge) have a very different shape.
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