how many hours do you ride?

[Tony]

Just wondering, I know how long is a piece of string etc but I usually go out and ride for at least 4/6 hours on my regular bike when I can, knackered but satisfied. I still haven't got an Ebike and wondered whether this is attainable or not? I know that there are many factors involved whats the most you've done in one day? (this could be a silly question)

 

[Doomanic]

How far do you travel in that time?

I generally do 2-3 hours and 20-30 miles, but I'm an unfit heffer. It sounds like you're a little higher up the fitness ladder than me so you could do more with less assistance.

 

[npatrix]

2-3 hours on weekend, to ride 6h in a eMTB you most likely need an extra battery, on a Levo you can get 4h riding tops (using mainly Eco Mode)

 

[R120]

Really depends on the terrain you ride, and how much assistance you use - this was my ride today, Shimano Steps motor in Trail mode for the whole journey, was left with 1 bar at the end of the ride - i probably could have used Eco for about half the ride, and come back with half a battery, and not effected the time it took me.

 

[eFat]

After 2h-21/2h my knees give up.

Depends on the terrain but 6h with 1 battery will be difficult.

 

[R120]

So today i went out, and after 2 miles riding in trail mode i realised that i had forgotten to fully charge my battery. I was left with two bars to get round the 13 miles i was planning to do - put the bike in Eco, and did the rest of the ride in it, and it only went down to 1 bar in the last mile. so basically got 12 miles out of 1 bar of battery in Eco. Here is the ride:

 

[EddieJ]

I've never really given any thought to actual riding time during a ride, as I just head out and the rides take as long as they take.
But in respect of actual time in the saddle, a quick look at Strava shows these two had a reasonable amount of saddle time. The first a highly technical and difficult ride with a healthy elevation gain, and the second a ride that I suddenly didn't feel too well on at the mid way point, and struggled to finish it.

 

[R120]

The first ride I reckon is perfectly doable if you use eco in areas which don’t really require assistance.

2nd one I think is a two battery job, though if you are super fit and keep it in eco I would be really interested to see how far you could get

 

[R120]

The first ride I reckon is perfectly doable if you use eco in areas which don’t really require assistance.

2nd one I think is a two battery job? Where you on the ebike? though if you are super fit and keep it in eco I would be really interested to see how far you could get

 

[EddieJ]

The first ride I reckon is perfectly doable if you use eco in areas which don’t really require assistance.

2nd one I think is a two battery job, though if you are super fit and keep it in eco I would be really interested to see how far you could get

Are you talking about my two rides or your rides? You have me confused.

 

[npatrix]

61km with 19% battery left (20/35, 40/50, 90/100) most time in eco.

 

[R120]

Are you talking about my two rides or your rides? You have me confused.

Sorry talking about your rides - realise on re reading, what I meant that was on my bike if doing your routes I would get round the first on one charge, but not the second, but would be interested to see how far into the second route you could get on one charge

 

[Doomanic]

Nearly 28 miles and over 8000 feet of climbing on one battery? I'd say that was a little optimistic; the longest ride I've managed was 28 miles and 2800 feet of climbing, all in Eco.

 

[EddieJ]

Sorry talking about your rides - realise on re reading, what I meant that was on my bike if doing your routes I would get round the first on one charge, but not the second, but would be interested to see how far into the second route you could get on one charge

Sorry but I have to laugh at that one. Unless you are a professional athlete, you wouldn't stand a chance of making the first ride on one battery, or even the first climb. If you could, then you certainly don't require an ebike.

The first climb alone is 10 miles long with an elevation gain of 4,323ft. I consider myself to be a fit rider, the guide that took me on the ride is super fit, and we both changed our 500wh batteries within one mile of each other at roughly the 9 mile point of the climb. Both of us used a mix of tour, sport and turbo mode just to be able to get up the first climb. The second ride in the UK is a flat stroll in the park by comparison.

The quoted climbing elevation gain of 8,704ft was over a total climbing distance of 17 miles. The remaining 11 miles was either flat or downhill, with the last descent being 7 miles.

Photo showing peaks climbed after reaching the ten mile point.




Nearing the top of one climb



I'd certainly put a wager on no one other than a trained athlete completing the ride on much less than two full batteries.

 

[R120]

Obviously i haven't done the ride, it just looks from what you have posted that it may doable on 1 battery, so i completely accept your statement if thats the case. I look more at the miles than the elevation. The Furthest i have got is about 38 miles, with 3500ft ish of elevation, about half of the miles done in Eco, most of the rest in trail, with small bits in boost. It still surprises me that you think it would take 2 whole batteries, unless you are in boost/turbo continuously for lots of the way. I am basing my figures off Shimano Steps. I don't have full strava as i primarily use it to record routes, rather than performance, so i have no idea what heart rate, energy etc i am using.

 

[EddieJ]

For me, miles are pretty much irrelevant, as I could go on a ride which is flat or almost flat and get hundreds and hundreds of miles out of the battery, or a ride that is super steep and get next no miles from the battery.

Taking this climb as an example, it is a mere 10.4 miles long, but with an elevation gain of 6,428ft still required the use of a second battery for the last mile or so, and that was being pretty careful with power settings. Putting it into perspective, that is nearly six times the elevation gain per mile of either of the two rides that you have shown.



Another example is this ride this ride of just 1.6 miles, which is close to the same elevation gain elevation gain as your second ride of 23 miles. For me eMTB's are solely about climbing/elevation gain over the shortest possible distance, not the flattest longest distance. Looking at my stats for last years trip to the alps, the total elevation gain was 46,868 ft over a distance of 128 miles. Plus on top of this one road ride on my pedal mtb which was 6,300ft of elevation gain over 53 miles. You got to love a bit of climbing.

Or this example

 

[R120]

Its really interesting to see how much the elevation you are riding influences the battery usage. I don't live near, and doubt i will often get to anywhere with that kind of continue climbable terrain. I have always factored that you could assume the usage on shorter climbs would just be replicated on longer climbs, i.e if it takes 1 bar of battery in boost to do X, then 5 times X will drain you battery. Do you find that the longer you are on a continuous climb, in trail or boost, that the battery depletion rate goes up, or that the drain is pretty continuous? I know the battery level indicators are not that accurate.

 

[Kernow]

Definatly need two batteries to get a good long ride and a decent workout , but I do find I can have a good hour and a half working hard up and down my local trails if I pick steep climbs , it’s the sort of climbing no one does on a normal bike .

 

[Ryder]

grade of ascent makes a massive difference to battery usage. I would say that rating range by elavation climbed is a much better metric than distance covered.

 

[Kernow]

This is an example , we rode across the open moors , no huge climbing but grinding away in eco using the lower gears all the way on rough soft grassy ground that really drags your speed down , my battery died 2 miles about 2 miles from the end , the other two bikes just made it identical,bikes but they are both 15 - 20 kilos lighter than me

 

[outerlimits]

Way too may, according to my wife...

 

[Doomanic]

Not nearly enough, according to mine...

 

[Uppy]

This is my ride today. It was set on Eco all the way. At the end of the ride I had 60 % of Battery left after 25 mile ride.

 

[Tony]

Well thank you for all that info.....very helpful.

 

[EddieJ]

grade of ascent makes a massive difference to battery usage. I would say that rating range by elavation climbed is a much better metric than distance covered.

I deffinetly agree with that one. Taking these two examples from just this week. Steepness of terrain and elevation gain are all that matter.

7.1 miles with an elevation gain of 4,987. Ridden in emtb mode all the way, it used one battery.

And this one today, ridden totally in eco mode, with some left in reserve from the battery. 52.5miles and almost flat elevation gain for the distance, of 7,666ft.

 

[valecek]

2-3 hod na miestnych trasách, 30-40 km. 800-1000 m vertikálne.
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