goggles and full face helmet fit

[Swiss Roll]

Hi, I have a ixs trigger ff, I was wondering how critical the helmet shape is to fitting goggles. I'm thinking it's not so important, but if someone can confirm?

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

not really sure what you mean but in my experience all FF helmets fit goggles

 

[Swiss Roll]

not really sure what you mean but in my experience all FF helmets fit goggles

yeah, sorry, but I meant that fox goggles are designed to fit fox helmets, for example, and other goggles might not fit so well. I am guessing its not that critical, though.

 

[Gary]

They actually don't dobby. Certain combinations work way better than others. and some are simply incompatible.
and it does matter rather a lot.
But it's often a case of trial and error finding the best fitting goggles for your particular helmet

 

[Mikerb]

Well it is!! Firstly goggles come in different sizes and shapes and that can impact on how well they fit into the aperture provided by different ff helmets. I use a Smith MAinline helmet and already had 100% goggles. The helmet pushed the goggles too far onto my nose.....they also misted up badly. I bough Smith Goggles...........perfect fit and the vents on the goggles match the vents in the forehead lip of the helmet.

 

[Swiss Roll]

Well it is!! Firstly goggles come in different sizes and shapes and that can impact on how well they fit into the aperture provided by different ff helmets. I use a Smith MAinline helmet and already had 100% goggles. The helmet pushed the goggles too far onto my nose.....they also misted up badly. I bough Smith Goggles...........perfect fit and the vents on the goggles match the vents in the forehead lip of the helmet.

I read somewhere on this forum that might be the case. I am not digging the ixs goggles though, and goggles are online only round here, plus I need some otg ones, preferably with contrast enhancement coating. And that thing with the vents sounds good.

edit: I took a look at the ixs goggles again, they are growing on me, but no otg option.

 

[Gary]

Yeah. Even without a helmet you'll find some goggles will fit your face shape/nose/eyes really well while others really won't. and a good fit is just important as with your helmet. Obviously a correctly fitting helmet is MOAR important to your safety but you really do need to get goggles that work well with your preferred helmet. There'd be nothing worse than a helmet/goggle combination that just didn't fit or a combination where the helmet opening pushed the goggles down onto the bridge of your nose or squeezed the sides either making them not sit properly, reducing field of vision or simply being uncomfortable.

I rarely wear a FF or goggles anymore but when I did I'd often modify* the goggle frame and nose foam for both better fit and air flow

* cut it

 

[Gary]

I know my helmet with Oakley googles pushes down my nose so when I’m wearing them I can only be a mouth breather. I’d like to see others good combos too

Oakleys are shit. If you must use them do yourself a favour and cut the nose piece and remove the top foam completely. Trust me

 

[Swiss Roll]

Yeah. Even without a helmet you'll find some goggles will fit your face shape/nose/eyes really well while others really won't. and a good fit is just important as with your helmet. Obviously a correctly fitting helmet is MOAR important to your safety but you really do need to get goggles that work well with your preferred helmet. There'd be nothing worse than a helmet/goggle combination that just didn't fit or a combination where the helmet opening pushed the goggles down onto the bridge of your nose or squeezed the sides either making them not sit properly, reducing field of vision or simply being uncomfortable.

I rarely wear a FF or goggles anymore but when I did I'd often modify* the goggle frame and nose foam for both better fit and air flow

* cut it

thanks for the reply. I was chatting to the guy at a 100% display stand, and we did discuss just cutting the foam to fit, so nice to have it confirmed.

Anyone got a ixs trigger and trigger goggles? Enough room for glasses?

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

They actually don't dobby. Certain combinations work way better than others. and some are simply incompatible.
and it does matter rather a lot.
But it's often a case of trial and error finding the best fitting goggles for your particular helmet

yea I gotta say my experience of this is from MX and no issues at all there, the opening can take pretty much any goggle apart from proprietry stuff.

I know my helmet with Oakley googles pushes down my nose so when I’m wearing them I can only be a mouth breather. I’d like to see others good combos too

I put some additional foam in the top of my helmet to stop this, also has the advantage of raising the goggle so that when you are 'head down, eyes up' you can see more trail and less goggle frame.
looks a little odd though

 

[Gary]

No more odd than I look out on the moors all dressed up for my hobby..

 

[Swiss Roll]

Another question: most brands of goggles have some models with enhanced contrast, they all have different names, like chromapop etc, are these all various kinds of polarisation?

 

[Zimmerframe]

I have some chromapop's (Smith) it's more just colour filtering :

"ChromaPop filters two specific wavelengths of light that cause color confusion—specifically, the retina's trouble distinguishing between blue and green and red and green light perception. ChromaPop lenses filter these specific crossovers, allowing for greater definition, natural color, and clarity."

More explanation and examples :

SMITH ChromaPop™ Goggle Lens Guide

Ready to take your snow season and vision to the next level? Check out our SMITH ChromaPop™ Goggle Lens Guide for the best lenses in any condition!

www.sportrx.com

Unfortunately, I'm colour blind. I think in this case you need to take more care choosing a filter lens as you're potentially filtering out the colours you can see ! The ones I have make everything seem "more colourful" is as best I can describe it. This seems to work great in strong to average light levels. For me though, the filtering reduces my visible spectrum in any shaded light scenarios - with a different coloured lens I might find the opposite, but I'm not planning on buying a box of lenses to try so that will remain inconclusive.

If you try to take a picture of this, it doesn't work as the camera compensates (to my eyes anyway)

Normal :

Through goggles :

 

[Swiss Roll]

After a quick google, it seems colour filters (ie chromapop, for example) work by either selective absorbtion, or selective reflection, to increase contrast. Polarisation, as we all know from physics lessons, allow rays at one angle, whilst blocking the perpendicular angle.

Which is preferable, though? I guess it's a moot point, if I get ixs for the fit, which only seem to offer polarisation.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

I bought the parker goggles and alleycat glasses from Melon - Melon Optics - Custom Sunglasses and Goggles
I got a load of lenses to test and I like the red one.

 

[Mikerb]

If you have any experience of colour grading in video post edit, my Smith Goggles give the same effect as increasing both contrast and saturation. You can get lenses specific to trail as opposed to road ( obviously not many goggles worn by roadies!!) and the trail specific lenses tend to make greens and browns sharper with the result that trail characterisitcs are far more distinct.
The best lens I have is a ctually in my Oakley Jawbreakers ( glasses). It is only slightly smoked, enhances contrast and is brilliant for the very changeable light you tend to get on forest trails in and out of the tree canopy.

 

[Swiss Roll]

Thanks for all the replies, it's a bit clearer in my mind now.

 

[Tubby G]

Bringing an old thread to life …

I’m after some goggles. Fancy some Melon Parkers as they look so funky, but the POC Ora’s are designed to fit perfectly with my helmet (POC Coron). Both are the same price, the POC’s look a better spec on paper but the Melon’s have options of coloured lenses, frames and straps etc

Not sure if the Melon’s will fit the POC Coron helmet ok. Anyone wear the Parkers with a Coron helmet ?

 

[Mikerb]

I cannot answer your question on the POC but I think it is a far safer bet to get the same brand googles as helmet because at least their sponsored riders have presumably verified the fit is right. I have a Smith mainline full face and already had 100% goggles. They could not be used together! The helmet pushed the goggles hard against my nose such that I could only breathe through my mouth.........and the goggles fogged for a past time. I subsequently bought Smith Goggles. The fit is perfect and the system used to flow air from the helmet forehead rim through the top of the goggles means absolutely no misting up. The Smith lenses are also far superior to the 100% and on a par or contrast, clarity, and anti scratch with my Oakley glasses.

 

[Tubby G]

I cannot answer your question on the POC but I think it is a far safer bet to get the same brand googles as helmet because at least their sponsored riders have presumably verified the fit is right. I have a Smith mainline full face and already had 100% goggles. They could not be used together! The helmet pushed the goggles hard against my nose such that I could only breathe through my mouth.........and the goggles fogged for a past time. I subsequently bought Smith Goggles. The fit is perfect and the system used to flow air from the helmet forehead rim through the top of the goggles means absolutely no misting up. The Smith lenses are also far superior to the 100% and on a par or contrast, clarity, and anti scratch with my Oakley glasses.

Agree with you Mike, the POC Ora’s will most likely fit the helmet perfectly and they are no doubt a decent quality goggle. I just like the bling factor and colour options of the Melon Parkers. The POC’s are quite bland, black, grey or blue, with clear lenses. No bling

 

[Mikerb]

Agree with you Mike, the POC Ora’s will most likely fit the helmet perfectly and they are no doubt a decent quality goggle. I just like the bling factor and colour options of the Melon Parkers. The POC’s are quite bland, black, grey or blue, with clear lenses. No bling

Ora Clarity – POC Sports
less is more

 

[Tubby G]

Ora Clarity – POC Sports
less is more

Thanks, I’ve seen the funky coloured Ora’s but the bland blue, grey & blacks are at a sale price of around £40-45. I do like bling, but I won’t pay an extra £40 for it

 

[Tubby G]

Ora Clarity – POC Sports
less is more

In fact I just bought the last pair of blue Ora’s for £39.95, out of stock now. Knocked the Melon idea on the head!

POC Ora Goggles

The brand new POC Ora Goggles have been created to meet the precise needs and demands of modern mountain bikers. The Ora has been created to optimize a riders field of vision and the has been created to fit seamlessly with POCs helmet collection, in particular the Tectal and Coron. The Ora has a...

biketart.com

 

[Craig24]

Jumping on this thread. I’ve got the MET Parachute and have now tried 3 brands of goggles, none of them seem to fit as snug with the helmet as they do without, like there not tight up against my face.

Is that normal?

 

[Mikerb]

sounds like all the ones you have tried are too narrow ( or maybe too small) such that the sides of the helmet hold them off your face.

 

[Craig24]

I assume there too wide so they touch the sides of the helmet? I'll try another brand

 

[R120]

POC Ora's are the best goggles I have used by far, and I have a lot of goggles! The lens is great for all conditions, the frame design is super comfy and works with most helmets, and the ventilation with no foam in key areas means they work very well on the trail.

 

[Spaceballz]

My Spy McGrath edition foundation goggles fit my Troy Lee stage helmet perfectly! for what it's worth

 

[Craig24]

POC Ora's are the best goggles I have used by far, and I have a lot of goggles! The lens is great for all conditions, the frame design is super comfy and works with most helmets, and the ventilation with no foam in key areas means they work very well on the trail.

I have a pair of POC Ora's in red for sale if anyones interested?