Giant Picture Thread, lets see em.

7869hodgy · Jul 25, 2020

Back on it since I lost a fight with a tree. 152 cranks working well and Eddie Current 2.8s doing a great job (replaces the Maxxis) Loving it.
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oldmanmx · Jul 26, 2020

Crookhaven River at Culburra Beach. Didn't realise the tide was coming in when I was taking this and had to get my feet wet to get the bike back out.

DrStupid · Jul 26, 2020

E-wilds. Good looking tire I think. Very moto looking.

Softsand · Jul 26, 2020

Picked up some used DVO Diamond forks but the cool thing is they were from a Intense Special Edition already in Army Green. Almost a perfect match for the frame colour of the Pro 1 Trance E+.

Fixerman · Jul 26, 2020

Here's mine from a ride out on Saturday

MartinC · Jul 27, 2020

Bewl Water, clean dog - dirty Trance!

Gilbert · Aug 15, 2020

Pottsy said:
2018 SX on a coastal ride in Ireland. View attachment 8089
Similar theme with my one 2017 Full E+2

Bobajobbob · Aug 15, 2020

Just out of the box

GrandPaBrogan · Aug 16, 2020

Bobajobbob said:
Just out of the box

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Looks like the effective chainstay length is nice and short! Nice!!

Tmeyer37 · Aug 16, 2020

Bobajobbob said:
Just out of the box

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What model is this?

djb · Aug 16, 2020

Fallen Leaf Lake, near South Lake Tahoe CA USA

Bobajobbob · Aug 16, 2020

Tmeyer37 said:
What model is this?

Vitus Escarpe

Bobajobbob · Aug 16, 2020

GrandPaBrogan said:
Looks like the effective chainstay length is nice and short! Nice!!

I have to ask because I keep hearing this mentioned but have no idea what it means. What is the chain stay length and why does it matter? Thks

DrStupid · Aug 16, 2020

Bobajobbob said:
I have to ask because I keep hearing this mentioned but have no idea what it means. What is the chain stay length and why does it matter? Thks

It's not a Gaint though, good looking bike all the same.

I searched your question verbatim and came up with this interesting company and website.

Seven Design Philosophy - Understanding Chainstays | Seven Cycles

www.sevencycles.com

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GrandPaBrogan · Aug 16, 2020

Bobajobbob said:
I have to ask because I keep hearing this mentioned but have no idea what it means. What is the chain stay length and why does it matter? Thks

Yep you accidentally wandered into the ‘Giant brand’ forum. A warm welcome anyway. Understandable that it could be misread as the “ginormous” picture thread. ?

The exact location of the BB (bottom bracket - where the cranks revolve) is crucial to how a bike behaves. The resulting behaviour changes too depending if you’re seated or if you’re standing... over (but not limited to) two main aspects, cornering AND airborne balance.

Its a complex subject but in simple terms, the closer the BB is to the front wheel the better it is for climbing and cornering with a loose caveat - the rider remains mostly in a static seated position. A BB location that is closer to the rear wheel is better for downhill and jumping where the likelihood is that the rider is standing and in a reactive dynamic position.

The shorter the chainstay length is, the closer the BB is to the rear wheel. Obviously the overall wheelbase has a huge effect on this influence - as well as the BB height. The center of gravity will be lower with a low BB height - when the rider is standing (off the saddle) therefore more stable, but increases the chance of pedal strikes.

Because we all differ in technique and application, determining the “sweet spot” for the ideal BB location can be an issue for debate.

I personally prefer the feel of bikes with the shortest possible chainstay length and lowest possible BB height from the ground. This is not to say that this is ideal for everyone. ??

Bobajobbob · Aug 16, 2020

GrandPaBrogan said:
Yep you accidentally wandered into the ‘Giant brand’ forum. A warm welcome anyway. Understandable that it could be misread as the “ginormous” picture thread. ?

The exact location of the BB (bottom bracket - where the cranks revolve) is crucial to how a bike behaves. The resulting behaviour changes too depending if you’re seated or if you’re standing... over (but not limited to) two main aspects, cornering AND airborne balance.

Its a complex subject but in simple terms, the closer the BB is to the front wheel the better it is for climbing and cornering with a loose caveat - the rider remains mostly in a static seated position. A BB location that is closer to the rear wheel is better for downhill and jumping where the likelihood is that the rider is standing and in a reactive dynamic position.

The shorter the chainstay length is, the closer the BB is to the rear wheel. Obviously the overall wheelbase has a huge effect on this influence - as well as the BB height. The center of gravity will be lower when the rider is standing (off the saddle) therefore more stable, but increases the chance of pedal strikes.

Because we all differ in technique and application, determining the “sweet spot” for the ideal BB location can be an issue for debate.

I personally prefer the feel of bikes with the shortest possible chainstay length and lowest possible BB height from the ground. This is not to say that this is ideal for everyone. ??

Cheers for the explanation and apologies for invading a Giant thread. As you suggested i misread it as the 'great big picture thread' in new posts.

DrStupid · Aug 16, 2020

Bobajobbob said:
Cheers for the explanation and apologies for invading a Giant thread. As you suggested i misread it as the 'great big picture thread' in new posts.

Haha. It never dawned on me that it was also a giant picture thread. Ride on. Beautiful bike!

TheLob · Oct 8, 2020

Updated photos of my Fathom E+3, with Front RRP Proguard Bolt On & Rear Mudhugger mudguards. Suntour SP17 NCX Seatpost.
Overlooking Belfast Lough from the “Long Hole” pier, Bangor.