skyfree
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Just to throw another wrench in this, as more of a beginner (1 1/2 years on eMTB but with years on moto-x bikes), I can't tell much of a difference between my 2 bikes. I'm 5'10" with a 31" inseam. The Haibike is a Small frame 2017 AllMtn 8.0. The Giant is a Large Trance E+ 1. I bought the large frame rather than medium because it's a loaner and most of the people riding it are right around 6'0".
The only obvious difference is on steep climbs. The Haibike wants to lift the front end and I have to get WAY over it to prevent that. The Giant climbs anything without much fuss. The difference is 465 chainstay vs 470 on the Giant, which doesn't sound like much to me, but who knows.
The bigger guys riding the Haibike say the same thing. I understand you experts can tell the difference, but for less skilled folks maybe not. I don't manual (yet) and wheelies are usually unintentional, but both of these bikes handle the same terrain pretty much the same way when they are on the same trail together.
The only obvious difference is on steep climbs. The Haibike wants to lift the front end and I have to get WAY over it to prevent that. The Giant climbs anything without much fuss. The difference is 465 chainstay vs 470 on the Giant, which doesn't sound like much to me, but who knows.
The bigger guys riding the Haibike say the same thing. I understand you experts can tell the difference, but for less skilled folks maybe not. I don't manual (yet) and wheelies are usually unintentional, but both of these bikes handle the same terrain pretty much the same way when they are on the same trail together.